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==Moving namespaces==
 
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Ran across a good potential use for Namespaces.  I want to see if [[HelpIndex]] links to the pages pointed to by [[Six messaging areas]].  Some of those pages are linked to by a huge list of stuff.  The [[What links here]] pages allow me to limit the list to a particular Namespace.  Unfortunately, [[HelpIndex]] seems to be in the main Namespace.  Would it make sense to move it to the Help namespace so we could more easily see if [[HelpIndex]] linked to various pages?  What would be the side effects of this move?  --[[User:JDCohen | Joe Cohen]] | [http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JDCohen&action=edit&section=new Leave me a message] 20:09, 10 February 2008 (PST)
 
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: ''Yes, I have seen that benefit as well.  I think it's fine to move it.  [[Help:HelpIndex]] or [[Help:Index]]?  The potentially hardest part of that will be checking backlinks for double-[[redirects]], but maybe since [[HelpIndex]] is new, there aren't too many [[redirect]]s to it yet.''
 
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: I do suggestion moving this part about the re-naming to [[HelpIndex]] before we do it. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] <small>([[User talk:TedErnst|talk]])</small> 05:58, 11 February 2008 (PST)
 
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# Re your question where to move it: [[Help:HelpIndex]] or [[Help:Index]]?  The second is simpler.  I like simple but don't have a strong preference.  Does one of these work better than the other?  Note that because of how Find functions, you must type "Help''':'''Index" into the Find box to have [[Help:Index]] returned as a search result.  So we must keep [[HelpIndex]] (for among other reasons) so that users searching for "Help Index" and the like would generate a hit. 
 
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# "What links here" says there are 50 pages that link to HelpIndex.  This is a manageable number for checking backlinks for double-redirects.  And even 50 appears to be an exaggeration; it appears that many of these pages link to HelpIndex only because they include the CommunityNews template.
 
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--[[User:JDCohen | Joe Cohen]] | [http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JDCohen&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Leave me a message] 07:43, 11 February 2008 (PST)
 
  
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:''Joe, I have never been a big fan of namespaces, as [[Ted]] knows :-) - I am usually more interested in flattening out the wiki than making it more complicated.  What benefit do you see about using the namespace, I see you mentinon [[What links here]] - but am still confused. Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
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Mark:  What I see isn't a huge benefit; there are workarounds; and I don't know enough about the workings of Namespaces to have an opinion on the tradeoffs.  Anyhow, here's what I had in mind as a benefit: <BR>
 
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I stumble across (or someone sends me to) a page that includes some kind of help.  Is that page already included in [[HelpIndex]]?  An intuitively easy way to answer this is to look at [[What links here]].  But [[What links here]] may return a really long list of pages -- in an order that I don't yet understand -- partly because it defaults to listing pages from all Namespaces.  If [[HelpIndex]] were outside the Main Namespace (e.g., in the Help Namespace), I could display [[What links here]] from ''only'' the Help Namespace, and tell more quickly if the page was linked to by [[HelpIndex]].  That's all I had in mind.  --[[User:JDCohen | Joe Cohen]] | [http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=User_talk:JDCohen&amp;action=edit&amp;section=new Leave me a message] 11:19, 11 February 2008 (PST)
 
  
 
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==Tasks==

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What's involved here? We have HelpIndex. Is it just a question of going through all those links and seeing which screenshots/text will need to change? How do we organize it?

14:02, 17 March 2008 (PDT) Now much higher priority than we thought

Dev will flip the switch to CompostUs is less than 24 hours.

proposal

  • Copy/paste entire HelpIndex page here
  • remove the parts we don't need
  • verify that we have the whole list
  • start going through the list to see what need to happen for each page
    • if small fix, just do it and strike that idea.
    • if bigger make a note next to the entry
  • once we see patterns begin to emerge, we can split the list up into different tasks, or use categories or something

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Tasks

  • Review Glossary, point out Glossary items for which help is available elsewhere or that I don't understand. Those entries will be listed at User_talk:JDCohen#Glossary. Now complete through M.
  • Review Special pages to see if appropriate ones are in this index and have help pages.
  • More formatting
    • paragraphs
    • formulas
    • advanced / css
  • Review http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Html metawikipedia:Help:HTML_in_wikitext (this literally could mean going through all the metawikipedia help pages one by one and seeing what could be linked to or needs to be brought to AboutUs). List of all pages in the metawikipedia Help Namespace is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Allpages?from=&namespace=12
  • Review AboutUs FAQs, add entries as appropriate
  • Review AboutUs help categories, add entries as appropriate
  • Review Category:AboutUs:Templates
  • Review wikipedia:Help:Contents#For_editors
    • Add entries as appropriate, with multiple headings, if appropriate
  • Where duplicate headings link to different pages, consider eliminating an entry
  • Sectional links for longer pages, like AboutUs:Basic wiki formatting WikiTour
  • The following are ideas on formatting / appearance of this HelpIndex
    • in source text for this section, change <strike> to css
    • perhaps create template to be used for links to (metawikipedia)
    • Category-style alpha TOC; perhaps best if this could float; but floating is probably incompatible with multiple columns because the index would cover up part of the right-hand column(s). See next bullet point.
    • turn the index into multi-columns (takes less time to find right place). But probably incompatible with floating index.
  • Consider replacing duplicate links (different entries that link to same place) with cross references to the same entry, so that there's only one link. (Makes it easier to link to a different place -- only need to change one link.)
  • In the future, the help pages with multiple topics (BasicWikiFormatting) can be broken up so permalinks can work for the sub-sections - and transcluded back together so BasicWikiFormatting still works.
  • Are all pages pointed to by HelpIndex in Category:AboutUs_Help?

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Self-assembling help index



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