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Revision as of 04:42, 13 February 2007
About Me, Myself and I
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- Hello, I am a wiki enthusiast!
- Contact me at MarkDilley.info
I am working on RecentChanges patrol and would love for you to help! ;-)
Besides RecentChanges I am working on:
- Generally improving the AboutUs wiki
- Figuring out the WordPress.org AboutUsWeblog.org
- Organizing the Category:OrganizedLabor and related pages.
- Organizing the Category:WikiIndex and related pages.
- Organizing the Category:PeaceOrganizing
- /Priorities
- HelpIndex
Contents
- MarkDilley.com - but maybe MarkDilley.Blogspot.com would be more apporpraite, food for thought
- LaborUnionOrganizing.info
- ArborUpdate.com
- CommunicateOrDie.com
New User Page
Mark,
I placed the issues it was too late to get into here -- User:Dclacroix/UserIssues
Feel free to comment or add.
VivaNet
Thank you, I'm just messing around with this stuff. I wanted to see if it would allow me to even add links to those larger sites.
I'll stick to those sites which are actually related to VivaNet. Thank you!
Watch
Keep your eyes on the ContactUs page, especially "# 67 The Real Owner (Aflpa.com) AFLPA". One of them changed your reply to make it seem as if you were taking sides. Drew
suggested_changes
Hello Mark
Thank you for your message.
I am not Christopher. The owner of www.christophernorris.co.uk had permission to use this IP address to create his www.aboutus.org page. From this it can neither be inferred that I am Christopher, nor that this IP address is Christopher's. I think you ought to have been a bit more careful.
I happened to assist the owner in establishing this page, which was implemented less than 24 hours ago, as you can well see. We are by far not done with its overall appearance. Whilst appreciating your having taken it upon yourself to watch out for certain criteria or standards, what you suggest - forgive me - is optically far off the mark in terms of the contents and nature of the website that is portrayed.
You managed to shoot forward twice in just one short message. Please do give a man a chance.
Sincerely
Adminbka
Hello Mark
Did you send this message right now?:
"I stand corrected, thanks for your critique. This is a wiki and reverting is extremely easy, are you familar with wiki? Best, MarkDilley"
If so, thank you - and thank you for your understanding. No hard feeling here. I assure you.
Yes, I know my way about this and other Wiki sites, tho', probably not as efficient yet as you are. Like I said: give a man a chance [grin].
Best
Adminbka
I truly appreciate your response. Thanks. Well, let us learn by fiddling around first. Should we get stuck, we'll turn to you. - A.
copyrights
Mark, Here's the problem with certain copyrights and what some of the sysops don't want to undersatand... i'll start with an example... Lets say your an artist with a recording label.. you have a new song, and you allow a company to use it in an advertising campaign.. so the ad, with the song shows up on various websites.. the song, nor the ad become property of those websites, andanyone who copies it without permission of the owner, is now liable for the damages... Now on aboutus.org, there's a copyright remplate for iamges.. but who see's it? peopel go to a page containing the image, all they see is the image. And when the actual site owner provides content for the page pertaining to their site, they are doing so themselves, for display on aboutus, for promotional and information reasons. I created a template ffor this type of copyright, which was a disclaimer of the information provided by the owner for aboutus.org only, and any redistrubution or copies are not allowed for use anywhere else.. and other sysop's dont agree with it, and insist on removing it. Not only is that template a warning to potential theives and hordes, but it protects aboutus be not holding them resp-onsable if content from that page is taken by a 3rd party without proper permission. Now with my sites, I can't have them on here as I did without that type of disclaimer on them.. some of the images, and content I have permission to use, but other sdo not, I can plae it where I want to, but no one can legally copy it and use it as their own on other sites. This is something you will find with most multimedia, and entertainment websites, as well as some companies that do a great deal to protect what they have (hence, all the engativity about how aboutus 'steals' information illegally, which isn't true, about us uses publically accessable information, and only takes a section of a front page as a quote, which is fair usage).. The big problem lies in the knowledge, or misknowldedge that there is about copyrights among sysops, recent partollers, etc.. (and yes, it's a tough one since it does vaary by locality, and constanty changes so no one can fully keep up with it all).. an dof course, the never ending problem of anyone being able to edit pages.. which may never truly be resolved in a wiki format. You can take my word on multimedia and etnertainment sites not holding back on this. I've been with them for 20 years, and have seen things less than this turn into major court battles. The main thing that needs to be worked out is simple.. ther eneeds to be an easy to find tempalte available for use on pages, such as the one I created that was removed several times.. which keeps aboutus out of the middle of any copyright disputes, and holds whoever may take the information liable by the owner themselves. You all also have to realize.. only a small percentage of people have even heard of wiki's, never mind know how to use them, find them, even with as much news on aboutus that has been generated, it's stilla very small eprcentage of webmasters that even know aboutus exist. In any post I make concerning aboutus, I do stress how the bot does nothing illegal, it's more of wiki problems itself, and that is totally true, and edittors, especailly those with sysop status, do need to be aware of legalities that can and will arrise. My only suggestion would be to have registered and logged in users able to edit pages, and tweak the bot a bit to exlude whois and some alexa information to aovoid those wh go ape about 'stealing my personal information' (again, they jsut dont get it when it comes to that). Perhaps have a new user menu on the left with nothing but a faq on how to add templates, what is available for your page, etc.. so it's easy to find for the completely wiki illiterate.. that's really the biggest problem, wiki isn't all that popular, and isn't liked by most due to it's 'open editting', and aboutus is new in itself, and a format many have come to ahte due to other sites that have been around that horde and 'scrape' from various sites.
again, my main problem is, adding content to pages about my sites (and I know others will say the same), need a copyrighted content template shown, to keep aboutus safe and not liable, and warn off potential theives.. it's really no differant than placcing a watermark n an image or media file stating 'free for personal use, do not redistribute'. I can't make it any simpler than that. One of my largest affiliates, RCA (SonyBMG) would be one of the first and msot costly to hold a grudge about this sort of thing (luckily, I don't think they are very aware of aboutus.org yet, and I'm not going to tip them off, Ray does have a good idea, it just needs alot of cleaning up, and 'staff' to be brought up to speed on legal issues, which again, can be tricky and vary a bit between localities,, for example, it's actually to legal to bootleg music in parts of europe and canada.. but in the US, it's only legal to download, it's illegal to redistribute in any manner.. when a canadian comes to my site, which is us based, they think it's all legal, I have disclaimers everywhere about that exact topic, stating 'this is a us based website'.. making it clear we follow us laws)
I'll be around a bit more later this week.. work is getting the better of me right now, I got ray's voicemail, and jsut wanted to send this to ya's as an explination of the problem.. again, I'm not pissed t you guys or aboutus, or even certain sysops, I've jsut been in the music, tv, and movie biz for a long time and have dealt with these issues on an almost daily basis. Ray making statements on blogs are great, but there needs to be something for everyone to see right away on aboutus to show he's working on the situations, and a link to a page with various copyright, fair usage, and disclaimer information.. trust me, you'll all be glad you have that when you do (and you kind of do already, it jstu needs to be more visable, as does how to use a robot.txt to block the bot until all the robot tutorials start including the aboutusbot.
p.s. Ray should usderstand this exact problem.. what if you all went to say google, and put a full page for aboutus, using specific content from the site liek the logo, and someone decided to take it and create a simular site to aboutus using all he put on that page? wouldn't be right would it? google wouldn't be at fault, but there was no copyright disclaimer on the page, so they used it all as 'fair usage'.. that is going to happen alot from aboutus pages.. I can't stress enough that the template is needed for just such purposes Alan 16:21, 5 February 2007 (PST)
Compassion Club
Mark, I use marijuana for medical purposes and would like to know how I can join the compassion club so I can grow legally. I have all medical records and proof of my condition and marijuana is the only thing that stops my nausea. Where do I begin. Please e-mail me at Thank-you.
- sent email
Wikipedia.com etc.
The links to WikiNode and TourBusStop are part of a template that I use when I set up a new user page on a Mediawiki-based wiki. I do it just to see how 'old school' the wiki's administrators are. My personal opinion is that they may have been something worthwhile when there were only two or three dozen wikis, but these days they are pretty useless.
Some of the editors at en.wikipedia.org are going through their interwiki map, and it's pretty amazing the number of the prefix shortcuts in their interwiki map that are 404, moribund wikis, or spam-filled wikis. I have a feeling that most WikiNodes and TourBusStops are just about as useless, with many of the links pointing to problematic websites.
What's the status of WikiIndex, seeing as how most of the people behind that Wiki are involved in AboutUs?
Also: In my rummaging around the website earlier, I didn't see any guidance about categories, or any explanation about how your bot automatically creates categories. Did I miss the page, or is that still on the todo list? BlankVerse 02:11, 9 February 2007 (PST)
Lunch
Marky Mark, what are you up to tomorrow. Do you want to meet for lunch? ScottKeeler
.Ca Domain
Hmm, .Ca domains seem to validate fine now. Maybe it was just a DNS, or something, issue at the time?
- We are in beta and sometimes things break around here. :-) Glad this is working for you now!
Malware Sites
Mark, we need to discuss what to do about sites that attempt to place malware on user machines. I encountered one in RC today. The listing is safe, of course, but when someone clicks through, the site attempts to drop a virus onto the machine. Drew
- Yes, this has happened to me once or twice before, but in the edits someone made.... Malware
Not vandalism
User talk:209.53.237.172 From AboutUs - Hello and welcome to AboutUs. Contrary to your first impulse, we don't work for this person. We do want our website to be a professional endeavor and we are not against there being criticism against a person or site, but it needs to be constructive and not vandalism. Let me know if you have questions. Best, MarkDilley
Hello, Mark...
Thanks for the words about who's who, but
Here's the facts: 1) Michael Love does owe several hundred dollars to a friend of mine he hired to play for a 10,000-seat gig. 2) No one has yet uttered (we - some of Mr. Oxenvad's friends - would rather play honourable hardball than let than Mr. Love remain anonymously dishonourable within his chosen industry, and I'm personally confident hat no one *will* utter) any lies in making our point. 3) When Mr. Love honourably acquits himself of his debt to Mr. Oxenvad, the issue will be considered settled by all parties, and there will be nothing left over which you need bother.
Questions? Yep, I do have two:
- - As long as they remain within the realm of facts and honesty, what particular objections do you have to disputes being aired here?
- - would you be averse to this reply ending up in the "review" section of Mr. Love's page?
- Michael Muirhead
- Queen Charlotte, BC
- responded here User_talk:209.53.237.172
Adding link to your page
Hi Mark,
We had the following communication last week:
Adding link to Website Hi there,
I'd like to know how (and if) we can have our company website added to the various categories you have listed on http://www.aboutus.org/BilingualJobBoard.com.
For example, we'd like our website to be included on your Bilingual Jobs Toronto, French Jobs Toronto, and Bilingual Jobs links.
Thank you in advance,
Caryn Office Coordinator Bilingual Source/Source Bilingue Hi Caryn, that is easy, check out AddCategory or contact me. Best, MarkDilley
I clicked on your "AddCategory" link above, but still couldn't see how to add a link to any of your pages.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks again!
Caryn