UniversalWikiEditButton/Discussion

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editbutton.com

  • editbutton.org
  • editbuttons.com
  • editbuttons.org
  • editicon.com
  • editicon.org
  • editicons.com
  • editicons.org
  • wikibutton.com
  • wikibutton.org
  • wikibuttons.com
  • wikibuttons.org
  • wikiicon.com
  • wikiicon.org
  • wikiicons.com
  • wikiicons.org

Licensing the Result

In the spirit of AssumeGoodFaith, I think the license should be PublicDomain so that it can be used as widely and creatively as possible. The flip-side (which seems a bit anti-TheWikiWay would be to copyright it and grant a license that restricts the use to certain accepted cases in order not to dilute the symbol's power. This seems like a pretty clear case of SocialContract ... NotLegalCode.

I suggest making it a CommunityMark (like "BarCamp" is and to some extent, the FeedIcon itself). It would be the right thing for a universal edit button, and would also lend support to the CommunityMark concept. -- PeterKaminski


Agree - trademark should be registered that represents confornmity to a ruleset about that type of wiki

  • public wiki (open particiaption, all indians no chiefs, public wiki guidelines in effect)
  • community wiki (open participation, local guidelines in effect)
  • protected wiki (requires registration/authentification)
  • secure wiki (edit by invitation/application)

these can be conveyed by different colors?

Brainstorming

  • Why does the RSS icon work?
    • Simplicity. The image consists of a square containing one quarter of three concentric circles.
    • Ping! The idea of RSS as a feed, an outgoing source of data, coupled with pinging is hinted at with these shapes, which could represent:
      • a radar screen, bouncing back info from a target
      • a satellite sending out information whilst receiving
    • As an icon its goal is simply to inform of a feed. It is not a call to action.
      • Which, to be pedantic, differs from the purpose of a "Universal Wiki Edit Button."

Usability testing

A quick a dirty method for usability testing the icon is as follows:

  • For the set of edit icons (including existing ones like the MoinMoin comic bubble, or the ubiquitous pen),
  • take one control icon (say, a green dot)
  • and take N (e.g. 3) random edit icons.
  • Randomly permute this set of N+1 icons
  • and display this set to
  • a randomly selected user
  • and ask the user to choose which single icon means 'edit'.
  • Run this experiment many, many, many, many times,
  • and choose the icon that receives the most votes,
  • provided it has been selected more than the others a stastically significant amount.

Simple Branding i.e. CommunityMark

This is a wiki.png Thisisawiki barcamp.png Thisisawiki.gif Ceciestunwiki.gif

made by Helge Fahrnberger. Used on a couple of Wikis, eg. barcamp.at and osafa.org (also in french, portuguese and swahili). ReiniUrban used it on his company internal closed PhpWiki at RoCoCoCamp.info and mentioned that it was on many Austrian wikis, floating right at the top. No edit functionality. There are black, blue and yellow examples.

Another simple branding PhpWiki used in 2004 Poweredby phpwiki 82x31.png, combining the edit button with the logo. But it was too ugly.

Auto-Discovery

Maybe what we are talking about is a button that shows up in the url bar to let folks know the page they are on is a wiki. MarkDilley

rel-edit

I also want to mention that I've proposed a "rel-edit" microformat; see http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-May/009693.html]. --Evan 18:17, 25 May 2007 (PDT)

This is great! microformats all the way! --Vinh Nguyen



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