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'''Note: the project has been moved from here to [[NewSkinProject]] so that this page can be used to collect observations, errors, and ideas.'''
 
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[http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=NewSkin&action=edit&section=new New Comment] [[NewSkin#contentFooter|Newest Comment]]
  
 
==Hello Team!==
 
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[[Image:BetaSkin.jpg]]
 
[[Image:BetaSkin.jpg]]
  
==All Browser Platforms==
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== Things to test in your browser ==
* When i click "move", the rest of the toolbar disappears.
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* Search functionality (with Google search)
**''This is how Monobook works, and is standard MediaWiki functionality. This may change if desired.''
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* Adult Category flagging
* Google maps extension doesn't render under OS X/Firefox & Safari see [[User:John Stanton]]
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* Pages with Google maps (try [[User:John Stanton]])
**''It doesn't render at all! yikes!''
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* Your talk page, user contributions, watchlist, and preferences
* Because of the locations of the "flag" button and the "useful links" menu, I find that I often overshoot the flag with my pointer and the useful links drops down, covering up the flag.  Is there any way one or both of these could be moved so this doesn't happen? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst]]</small> 13:35, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
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* Various other special pages
* In my personal tools area my name is really small and brown and "My Talk" is large but also brown. I think both are supposed to be large and orange.  Also the little blank person icon doesn't show up next to my name.  Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070725 Firefox/2.0.0.6
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**''I think this is an overall problem with the skin and OpenID logins. --[[Vinh Nguyen]]''
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* <strike>Google searching doesn't work.</strike>
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* My username is in all lower case. [[Nathan|<span style="color:#3971DE">'''Nathan'''</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Nathan|<span style="color:#3971DE">'''talk'''</span>]])</sup> 17:44, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
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<big>I've moved errors that have been fixed to [[NewSkin/Fixed]] and personal reviews to [[NewSkin/Reviews]]. The remaining content are suggestions and concerns that will be considered for the next round of skin adjustments, but are not a part of the project [[NewSkinProject]].</big>
** Mine tooMust be by design.  I'm not sure I like it.
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* Flag is not working... [[User:Isabel|Isabel]] 15:46, 10 September 2007 (PDT)
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=== [[RecentChanges]] ===
===IE6 on Windows===
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I am quite concerned that [[RecentChanges]] are buried in the useful links section.  I would like that to be in the main skin. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
*''Please refer to my notes below regarding problems between the newskin and portal formats''.--[[User:DaughertyBw|DaughertyBw]] 19:07, 6 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
===IE7 on Windows===
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== [[WikiTour]] Button ==
* [[Image:IE7-newskin-screenshot.PNG|thumb]] The grass does not appear at the top.  Above the grass is a pale green horizontal bar.  In this pale green bar appears the AboutUs text part of the logo (above the edit button).  Also, the "useful links" menu doesn't seem to appear at all. TedErnst 06:43, 8 September 2007 (PDT)
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Can we move the [[WikiTour]] button above the ads. This screenshot is from Safari on Mac:
** Actully, since I couldn't upload the screenshot because of the missing menu, I switched back to the old skin and don't see an option to choose the new skin at all.  Interestig. TedErnst 06:48, 8 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
===Netscape on Windows===
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[[Image:NewSkinWikiTourIssue.png|left]] ~~ MarkDilley
* <strike> When pages are resized and browser windows are adjusted, the content footer doesn't render as nicely as it should. The two divs don't evenly fill out the entire space.</strike>
 
  
=== Firefox on Windows ===
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: I agree. Right now the WikiTour button actually looks like it's part of the ad stack, which in addition to making it hard for users to find something they really need, it could be misunderstood as being that we're showing a graphical ad in our text ad stack. -- [[TakKendrick]]
*[[Image:Firefox-newskin-screenshot.PNG|thumb]]When fonts aren't smooth, all text is unreadable (see screenshot).
 
* [[ Image:WeirdScrollBar.png|thumb]] There is a really strange scrollbar (sometimes) between the sidebar and the main section of the page. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 09:12, 11 September 2007 (PDT (seen screenshot){{Clear}}
 
  
===Safari on Windows===
 
* <strike>Safari has one slight problem rendering the content footer with enough padding. This isn't detrimental, purely visual.</strike>
 
* <strike>The content action icons show an what looks to be an extra pixel of info.</strike>
 
  
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== Permanent Link ==
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* I noticed that it was greyed out on [http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=WikiWiki&diff=0&oldid=9405235 this page]; showing but unclickable. - [[User:Ray King|Ray]] | <small>[[User talk:Ray King|talk]]</small>
  
=== FireFox on OSX ===
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==Edit/Save button==
* <strike>The something seems to be messing the "section edit" links up on some pages. See [[RockProperties.com]], [[Loofie.com]] and [[CompraWifi.com]] for an example. All the links for the section edits are stacked at the bottom of the page. It's possible maybe that somehow the missing logo is causing this (seems like the common thread with all these pages), but it's an issue for sure.</strike>
 
**''This looks like it may be a problem with the DomainBox CSS. From what I can tell so far, if you float an image left, and probably anything else, the links go awry. Floating right or center do not, however, cause any problems.''
 
**''I've handled the above section by moving the edit links. Floats were disturbing their peace.''
 
* <strike>Firebug reports error "document.searchbarform.auSearch has no properties" on any pageload.  Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218) Darwin 8.10.1 Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3)</strike>
 
* On my watchlist, the '''bold''' is a bit subtle.  It's not easy to tell which pages I've already viewed and which I haven't.  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 23:17, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
 
* When I put "JoyOfMovement.com" in the search bar, I get a blank page and this url: http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=Special%3AAboutUsSearch2&searchfield=joyofmovement.com [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 18:00, 6 September 2007 (PDT)
 
* The article tab looks as if it is selected (no brown line underneath) even when a different tab (like history) is actually selected.  Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218)  Darwin 8.10.1 Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3)
 
  
=== Safari on OSX ===
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I love the "Edit" button. Nice and big. When you're already in an edit window, this seems a little silly though. Is there any way to make it into a giant "save" button when you're editing an article? It seems like someone else was making this suggestion the other day, but I'm not sure it was ever noted. -- [[TakKendrick]]
* In my personal tools area my name is really small and brown and "My Talk" is large but also brown.  I think both are supposed to be large and orangeAlso the little blank person icon doesn't show up next to my name.   Mac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218) Darwin 8.10.1 Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3)
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: On the other side of this, I would hate to lose the edit button when I'm editing.  I quite often am editing a version that's not the current version, and either change my mind or realize my mistake.  The easiest thing to do is click "edit" again.  I do agree that a huge SAVE button would be awesomeMaybe if we do this, we could also add a smaller edit button to the right of move?  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 15:54, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
* <strike>"useful links" in PageActionsArea shows up immediately after "move" on the left rather than next to my personal tools on the rightMac OS X 10.4.10 (8R2218) Darwin 8.10.1 Safari Version 2.0.4 (419.3)</strike>
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:: Ted, what are you talking about? I don't think I have ever done that, I go to the front page via the article link. Please explain :-) ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
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::: When I'm looking at a diff in the past, and I click edit, I'm now editing a past version.  I realize that's that what I want, so I click edit again, so now I'm editing the current versionI'd rather not have to click twice, is all I'm saying. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 12:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
  
=== Safari on the iPhone ===
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=== edit / save ===
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I love the edit stake on the upper left.  During the edit process, I think having it as a save button would make more sense. Possibly also having the edit summary up there as well and move ''don't atomatically protect email addresses on the same line as minor edit and watch this page. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
  
== Things to test in your browser ==
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=== Locked Pages issue ===
* Search functionality (with Google search)
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I think there is a NewSkin problem with locked pages. Maybe on locked pages the green tab says '''''locked'''''?  Here is  an example from our front page:
* Adult Category flagging
 
* Pages with Google maps (try [[User:John Stanton]])
 
* Your talk page, user contributions, watchlist, and preferences
 
* Various other special pages
 
  
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[[Image:NewSkinIssueLockedPage.png]]
  
==First Review==
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The big empty green space - I don't think that makes sense to a new person.  Also, the '''''view source''''' link on the main page is confusing.  I believe it was their before, but not as prominent. ~~ MarkDilley
Ok so I have changed preferences  to the new skin and these are some of the things I found:
 
*The graphics are incredible! I like the way the Edit button is easy to see as well as the color scheme!
 
*Every feature seemed to work properly and correctly,
 
*I especially like the "animated" graphics such as the closing eye with "watch"
 
*I didnt like how it reformatted the Portal Pages. this may be a problem if users are able to switch between them in the future.
 
*On my personal page It cuts off the right side a little making it difficult to see the menu.
 
  
I think it definately livens up the pages and seems more user friendly. Especially as mentioned before the "edit" feature. Thanks for allowing me to include my input and I will look forward to the development teams continuing progress.! [[User:DaughertyBw|Bryan Daugherty]]
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==Bookmark==
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Is there anyway it could be like a choice in my preferences to turn it off, I keep bringing it up when going to click watch and lock. --[[User:Simon Koldyk|Simon]] | <small>[[User talk:Simon Koldyk|talk]]</small> 15:28, 2 October 2007 (PDT)
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* The bookmark is very much in test phase and may be switched to a static image.
  
===what i am seeing===
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==IE6 Skin Problems==
Regarding the portal type pages..  
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Here is what I am seeing, I believe it is because of the network weavers tool bar. it is pushing the right side of the page off so that the links are not seen. all I can see is to the ABOU not anything past (in the right side. See below:
*with the default skin[[Image:EntrepreneurEducationPortal.JPG|thumb|center]]
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[[Image:Cutoffskin.JPG|500px|right]]
*with the newskin[[Image:Newskinportal.JPG|thumb|center]]
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Hope this helps.. --[[User:DaughertyBw|DaughertyBw]] 11:20, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
*[[Image:Portalpage.JPG|thumb|center]]
 
*[[Image:Personalpage.JPG|thumb|center]]
 
  
*I am using MIE version 6.0 as a web browser
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== Text selection ==
  
== Simon's Notes ==
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I'm having trouble selecting text on many webpages. When I try to select a segment of text, it will select the whole content. This only affects the NewSkin. I'm not sure if it's a browser incompatibility, but I was using IE 6.
I like everything, and haven't seen any problems yet. Two things I would like changed for my own personal preference. 
 
* Move the edit links on pages back to where they were on the right side of the page.
 
* The grass, atleast part of it in the top left, if it could be clickable to go to the homepage. I'm so use to to clicking there.
 
* The usefull links is too hard to use, I liked it better when it was part of left nav (now right nav) --[[User:Simon Koldyk|Simon]] | <small>[[User talk:Simon Koldyk|talk]]</small> 18:40, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
==Joey's Notes==
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--[[User:Vartan|Vartan]] 09:08, 24 September 2007 (PDT)
*I agree with Simon about the useful links being hard to use.  It's not so bad with a mouse, but I've hit the wrong link several times when using the touch pad on my laptop.
 
*The links in the footer are a little hard to see because they blend in with the background a bit.  Could they be changed to a color that doesn't blend in so much? --''[[User:Joeyteel|Joey]]'' 19:24, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
==MB's Review==
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:I noticed this problem was moved to the [[NewSkin/Fixed]] page - I moved it back as I still have this problem.
I have played with it and tested it for flags and seems to be no problems. I am not fussy about the "useful Links". If I am not so new to the internet, I would not know where a lot of links I want like Home are. It is so small and seems so unimportant. I agree with Simon about these links. Better on the Right Nav--[[User:Master Baitor|Master Baitor]] 18:39, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
Another annoying thing is where the useful links are. If you go to flag a site and you put the mouse a little to high as you move, the drop down happens. --[[User:Master Baitor|Master Baitor]] 21:29, 5 September 2007 (PDT)
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:--[[User:Vartan|Vartan]] 11:24, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
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::I agree, just had mention it to Ted, you can now only highlight the entire page/article whereas you could highlight the specific text on the default (which is now gone) this was something that helped quite a bit! --[[User:DaughertyBw|DaughertyBw]] 11:32, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
  
==Ward's Observations==
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== View source/Edit text way too big ==
[[Image:Awkward Squeeze.png|thumb|Screen shot showing how image and skin overlap in unexpected ways. My preference would be that the image squeeze with the window, if that is possible.]]
 
I like the new look a lot, and especially the colors. Here are some observations of things that can probably be improved.
 
  
* Image and skin overlap in unexpected way when viewing the image page for uploaded image. See thumb. Page in question is [http://www.aboutus.org/Image:Top-lasik.png here].
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The text in the the edit/view source text box is way to big. First of all, everything else on the page is about half the size, and second, when editing a big page, the big text clutters up everything and is a bit bothersome. ([http://images.aboutus.org/images/1/12/Texttoobig.png Picture here])
  
* Can we fit the Ads into the skin's color scheme? They need to look like they belong. If their color scheme is shared between old and new, I'd rather see the new look good at the expense of the old.
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I think it should be about 10pt.
  
==Bigger Tabs==
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--[[User:Vartan|Vartan]] 11:34, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
I like the colors and the placement of the user box on the right. (not sure what your calling it?) I find myself hunting for the tabs- ''article'', ''history''- granted I have a rather small screen. I am not use to ''useful'' links and in general would appreciate the font being a wee larger. Initial thoughts as I am not use to it, but these are the things that stand out. Seems to work well in Camino  [[User:Kasey|Kasey]] 14:19, 6 September 2007 (PDT)
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<div style="margin-left:50px">
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=== It's IE! ===
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I tried using firefox and the text edit box looked okay! Doesn't work correctly in IE 7 though - not sure about IE 6.
  
==Evenplayn's Review==
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--{{ImprovedSig|Vartan|11:11, 13 October 2007 (PDT)}}
So far, I love the look and feel. However, I have to things to mention
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</div>
* Move the AboutUs logo and user info box to the left corner. I thought everyone knew that the upper left corner is where the eye naturally goes.
 
* I had to switch out of the new skin to leave this comment...couldn't figure out how to edit the page or discuss it. Am I missing something? If I can't figure it out, a new user wont be able to.
 
  
Otherwise it is great! --[[User:Evenplayn|Evenplayn]] 21:08, 6 September 2007 (PDT)
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== "Cracked" green arrow ==
  
== Michael's Experience ==
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Sometimes, when loading a page, the green arrow at the top left will "crack". This usually happens on pages that cannot be edited. See picture:
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[[Image:Brokengreenarrow.png|500px]]
  
I '''love''' the new look.  When I clicked Preferences -> Skin, I only saw the "default" aboutus skin as an option.  To get the new skin I had to manipulate the page DOM and change the radio button value to "design".  I'm using Mac OS X with Firefox 2.0.0.6. --[[User:Michael|Michael]] 12:03, 8 September 2007 (PDT)
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--[[User:Vartan|Vartan]] 12:41, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
: Same with Safari - no "design" option for skin. --[[User:Michael|Michael]] 12:05, 8 September 2007 (PDT)
 
  
== Personal area ==
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== Diff Word Wrap ==
My name is not correct in this new skin, also My talk is prominent, even though I am on my preferences.  I think it would be better if we indented under my name, like so:
 
  
MarkDilley
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The diff page word wrap seems to have problems with long text without spaces.
: talk
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[[Image:DiffWordWrap.png]]
: preferences
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:--{{ImprovedSig|Vartan|21:52, 13 October 2007 (PDT)}}
: watchlist
 
: contributions
 
log out
 
  
I like the little logos, but would like them to be consistent. person, talk cloud, watch eye, something for preferences and contributions...
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== Opera submit issue ==
  
[[Image:NewSkinIssues.png]]
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I don't seem to be able to press the 'save page' button with Opera 9.23. IE6 seems to work fine. Don't have a similar issue on Wikipedia.org. Cheers, [[User:Kuteni|Kuteni]] 04:07, 27 October 2007 (PDT)
  
~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
  
== [[RecentChanges]] ==
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: Agreed. Opera produces many problems, and sometimes doesn't show the page correctly. Opera is used by very few visitors sadly that it's the world's most secure browser, and most up to date to web standards (they wrote part of the standards for w3). Opera the main problem is with the JavaScript reacts differently.  --[[User:Skydork|<span style="background-color: #FFFF00; color: #000000;">N</span><span style="background-color: #EEEE00; color: #111111;">i</span><span style="background-color: #DDDD00; color: #222222;">c</span><span style="background-color: #CCCC00; color: #333333;">k</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Skydork|<nowiki>[talk]</nowiki>]]-[[HopeForAnotherDay.org|<nowiki>[HFAD]</nowiki>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Skydork|<nowiki>[contribs]</nowiki>]]-[[Special:Emailuser/Skydork|<nowiki>[email]</nowiki>]])</sup> 15:30, 24 December 2007 (PST)
I am quite concerned that [[RecentChanges]] are buried in the useful links section.  I would like that to be in the main skin.  ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
  
== edit / save ==
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== This is wonderful ==
I love the edit stake on the upper left.  During the edit process, I think having it as a save button would make more sense. Possibly also having the edit summary up there as well and move ''don't atomatically protect email addresses on the same line as minor edit and watch this page. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
  
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I hadn't been here in a while (my bad!), and wow!  What a great design to the site!  Very unique and so user-friendly!  Great job everyone!!!!  :)
  
== The Logo from the Consensus Poll ==
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[[Redlake6]]
I like the logo that we all worked so hard on from the consensus poll over at [[AboutUsLogo]].  I would like it to be represented on the site.  If I am mistaken and the consensus poll was about logo elements, please let me know. ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 

Latest revision as of 23:30, 24 December 2007

Note: the project has been moved from here to NewSkinProject so that this page can be used to collect observations, errors, and ideas.

New Comment Newest Comment

Hello Team!

So this page will be the base for all your notes, concerns, comments, problems, gripes, screenshots, errors and other ramblings about the "beta" skin.

On taking notes

If and when you find an error or something that doesn't "seem right," please note the following information:

  • What happened? Which page on AboutUs did you notice this on?
  • What is your Operating System (e.g., Windows, Windows XP, Windows 98, Mac OSX, Linux, ...)?
  • What browser are you using (e.g., Internet Explorer 6.0, Internet Explorer 7.0, FireFox, Safari, ...)?
  • Are you logged in to AboutUs?
  • Which area of the page did it happen in? Below is a screenshot from Firefox with some area names labeled to make this easier to report.

BetaSkin.jpg

Things to test in your browser

  • Search functionality (with Google search)
  • Adult Category flagging
  • Pages with Google maps (try User:John Stanton)
  • Your talk page, user contributions, watchlist, and preferences
  • Various other special pages


I've moved errors that have been fixed to NewSkin/Fixed and personal reviews to NewSkin/Reviews. The remaining content are suggestions and concerns that will be considered for the next round of skin adjustments, but are not a part of the project NewSkinProject.

RecentChanges

I am quite concerned that RecentChanges are buried in the useful links section. I would like that to be in the main skin. ~~ MarkDilley

WikiTour Button

Can we move the WikiTour button above the ads. This screenshot is from Safari on Mac:

NewSkinWikiTourIssue.png
~~ MarkDilley
I agree. Right now the WikiTour button actually looks like it's part of the ad stack, which in addition to making it hard for users to find something they really need, it could be misunderstood as being that we're showing a graphical ad in our text ad stack. -- TakKendrick


Permanent Link

  • I noticed that it was greyed out on this page; showing but unclickable. - Ray | talk

Edit/Save button

I love the "Edit" button. Nice and big. When you're already in an edit window, this seems a little silly though. Is there any way to make it into a giant "save" button when you're editing an article? It seems like someone else was making this suggestion the other day, but I'm not sure it was ever noted. -- TakKendrick

On the other side of this, I would hate to lose the edit button when I'm editing. I quite often am editing a version that's not the current version, and either change my mind or realize my mistake. The easiest thing to do is click "edit" again. I do agree that a huge SAVE button would be awesome. Maybe if we do this, we could also add a smaller edit button to the right of move? TedErnst | talk 15:54, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
Ted, what are you talking about? I don't think I have ever done that, I go to the front page via the article link. Please explain :-) ~~ MarkDilley
When I'm looking at a diff in the past, and I click edit, I'm now editing a past version. I realize that's that what I want, so I click edit again, so now I'm editing the current version. I'd rather not have to click twice, is all I'm saying. TedErnst | talk 12:27, 17 September 2007 (PDT)

edit / save

I love the edit stake on the upper left. During the edit process, I think having it as a save button would make more sense. Possibly also having the edit summary up there as well and move don't atomatically protect email addresses on the same line as minor edit and watch this page. ~~ MarkDilley

Locked Pages issue

I think there is a NewSkin problem with locked pages. Maybe on locked pages the green tab says locked? Here is an example from our front page:

NewSkinIssueLockedPage.png

The big empty green space - I don't think that makes sense to a new person. Also, the view source link on the main page is confusing. I believe it was their before, but not as prominent. ~~ MarkDilley

Bookmark

Is there anyway it could be like a choice in my preferences to turn it off, I keep bringing it up when going to click watch and lock. --Simon | talk 15:28, 2 October 2007 (PDT)

  • The bookmark is very much in test phase and may be switched to a static image.

IE6 Skin Problems

Here is what I am seeing, I believe it is because of the network weavers tool bar. it is pushing the right side of the page off so that the links are not seen. all I can see is to the ABOU not anything past (in the right side. See below:

Cutoffskin.JPG

Hope this helps.. --DaughertyBw 11:20, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

Text selection

I'm having trouble selecting text on many webpages. When I try to select a segment of text, it will select the whole content. This only affects the NewSkin. I'm not sure if it's a browser incompatibility, but I was using IE 6.

--Vartan 09:08, 24 September 2007 (PDT)

I noticed this problem was moved to the NewSkin/Fixed page - I moved it back as I still have this problem.
--Vartan 11:24, 5 October 2007 (PDT)
I agree, just had mention it to Ted, you can now only highlight the entire page/article whereas you could highlight the specific text on the default (which is now gone) this was something that helped quite a bit! --DaughertyBw 11:32, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

View source/Edit text way too big

The text in the the edit/view source text box is way to big. First of all, everything else on the page is about half the size, and second, when editing a big page, the big text clutters up everything and is a bit bothersome. (Picture here)

I think it should be about 10pt.

--Vartan 11:34, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

It's IE!

I tried using firefox and the text edit box looked okay! Doesn't work correctly in IE 7 though - not sure about IE 6.

--Vartan | talk 11:11, 13 October 2007 (PDT)

"Cracked" green arrow

Sometimes, when loading a page, the green arrow at the top left will "crack". This usually happens on pages that cannot be edited. See picture: Brokengreenarrow.png

--Vartan 12:41, 5 October 2007 (PDT)

Diff Word Wrap

The diff page word wrap seems to have problems with long text without spaces. DiffWordWrap.png

--Vartan | talk 21:52, 13 October 2007 (PDT)

Opera submit issue

I don't seem to be able to press the 'save page' button with Opera 9.23. IE6 seems to work fine. Don't have a similar issue on Wikipedia.org. Cheers, Kuteni 04:07, 27 October 2007 (PDT)


Agreed. Opera produces many problems, and sometimes doesn't show the page correctly. Opera is used by very few visitors sadly that it's the world's most secure browser, and most up to date to web standards (they wrote part of the standards for w3). Opera the main problem is with the JavaScript reacts differently. --Nick([talk]-[HFAD]-[contribs]-[email]) 15:30, 24 December 2007 (PST)

This is wonderful

I hadn't been here in a while (my bad!), and wow! What a great design to the site! Very unique and so user-friendly! Great job everyone!!!!  :)

Redlake6



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