ProFollow/Discussion
Traffic is generally good for business NOT suppressing traffic. Restraining traffic also restrains interactions and generally has the opposite effect. As traffic and business interactions are supported and encouraged, even between countries, all of the various participants experience financial growth and increases in the quality of everyday life. Every pebble thrown into the lake generates innumerable ripples and consequences. I believe that removing any restrictions from indexing and following will send beneficiaL ripples further than we can now imagine. Hugh Brecher
What's the opposite of that?
These are the two common versions as generally used in html headers:
- and
Currently
What's the current situation with links at AboutUs?
Currently, AboutUsFeatured and AboutUsSpotlighted articles are followed.
- Featured have gone through our original community process.
- Spotlighted go through our company process
- We need to develop a new community process
What's the plan?
- The AboutUs DevTeam has created a tool for sysops to turn NoFollow on and off.
- This page (ProFollowNoFollowDiscussion) is being used to formulate a policy (including making further recommendations for Dev, if necessary).
Our action
To avoid linking to bad actors, AboutUs has decided to turn on NoFollow for nearly all external links, with certain exceptions. The plan is to continue to expand those exceptions as far as possible to reward the good actors on the internet, while continuing to withhold benefits from bad actors, or those not interested in building this public resource (e.g. AboutUs.org).
Discussions to integrate
Requests to turn off nofollow
Please send new requests to
or come chat with us
Pending
- Randomize requests Tengaged.com page to switch it to "follow"
- Alexander Zlatin asks in LiveChat for ChemicalAid.com TedErnst
- Michael VanDeMar requests Better-Mortgage-Rate.com no followed
Please turn off "nofollow" or just switch it to "follow" for each of the following pages, each of which is my work:
Thank you, Hugh Brecher
- Hugh, please see below for the requests that have been granted. jewlrey-casting.net hasn't been worked on yet (it appears) and thus is still pending. TedErnst (talk)
- Gary request ByronBayHealing.com on my talk page. Kristina (contact me) 16:48, 26 July 2008 (PDT)
granted
- Pete Forsyth asks in a weblog comment for WikiProjectOregon.wordpress.com - 30 May 2008 -- Pete is in Portland, a known RealPerson, doing beneficial work. -- TedErnst
- Sam requests SeoCompanyService.com be featured (he worked on several pages before that were). -- Sam has been around AboutUs for a long time, adding to the project. -- TedErnst
- 4TulsaRealty.com, TheTulsaBricklayer.com, 4Trademark.com, LegalClosing.com, RelevantArticles.Org, TulsaJewelryByHenry.com, HughBrecher.com, RelevantArticles.Org -- Hugh has built out all these pages, plus has a client relationship with AboutUs -- TedErnst
- Hugh has coined the term in the AboutUs Family - :-) ~~ MarkDilley
- Dereke requests HolisticPage.com.au via email last week. Page has now been edited and has some nice content so it's "approved". Kristina (contact me) 18:54, 20 July 2008 (PDT)
- stepho123 requests BookCapetown.com on IRC -- Nice page -- Request granted Obed Suhail 02:45, 23 July 2008 (PDT)
- in IRC, stepho1237: could I ask someone to male one of my pages followed?: http://www.aboutus.org/DriveAfrica.co.za DriveAfrica.co.za - person has worked on page quite a bit. -- granted TedErnst (talk) 06:19, 12 August 2008 (PDT)
- ReaderJack.com has been worked on quite a bit and looks pretty good. Not asked for, but noticed and followed. Kristina (contact me) 10:32, 12 August 2008 (PDT)
- Same with Wyrdweb.eu. Kristina (contact me) 14:03, 2 September 2008 (PDT)
- A special thank you to Michael (Ultimate-Competitions.biz) for helping us identify a problem with UK visitors via our Facebook page. They would love to edit their pages, but can't even get to AboutUs to do so until we fix this. Kristina (contact me) 17:46, 10 September 2008 (PDT)
- Wow... GrowinStyle.com. Kristina (contact me) 14:14, 6 October 2008 (PDT)
- FanHistory.com - Real person Laura has edited this page a bit. Kristina (contact me) 16:50, 19 October 2008 (PDT)
- SocialHarbor.com - Real people have put a lot of time into this page and other sub personal pages. Kristina (contact me) 16:50, 19 October 2008 (PDT)
- DayAviation.co.uk looks great. Kristina (contact me) 15:04, 22 October 2008 (PDT)
- Mevilla.com - they gave us a great testimonial and have worked on the page a bit. Kristina (contact me) 16:16, 28 October 2008 (PDT)
- TheGreaterGreen.com - Wow. Kristina (contact me) 00:38, 12 November 2008 (PST)
- Yammer.com, Twitter.com, Facebook.com - We built out these pages and we use/like/trust these site. Kristina (contact me) 13:36, 17 November 2008 (PST)
- wikiHow.com, Wikipedia.org, WikiTravel.org, SocialText.com - Other wikis that we like and trust.
- User:Bin95 asked that his featured nomination for Bin95.com be re-activated and they have put quite a bit of work in. Kristina (contact me) 17:39, 19 November 2008 (PST)
- Aera.ca - Page looks great. Kristina (contact me) 13:10, 20 November 2008 (PST)
- JimBouchard.org - Wow, great work. Kristina (contact me) 14:35, 2 December 2008 (PST)
- Drive-Israel.com - lots of work put in, Kristina (contact me) 14:01, 10 December 2008 (PST)
- Great "twerson" (?) and made some edits: HowToSplitAnAtom.com. Kristina (contact me) 13:42, 30 December 2008 (PST)
- MaineDayTrip.com looks great! Kristina (contact me) 19:38, 27 January 2009 (PST)
- GenieKnows.com looks great. Kristina (contact me) 11:05, 19 March 2009 (PDT)
- martininnovations.com followed! --Khurram Rafique 21:37, 19 July 2009 (PDT)
- Anthony requests InstantCallBlast.com. (We are going to work together to make the page look a little better first.) Kristina (contact me) 14:22, 26 June 2008 (PDT)
- Stephen requests BookCapetown.com via email. Suggested that he work on the page a bit more to make it look a little prettier. Kristina (contact me) 12:49, 22 July 2008 (PDT)
- Frances requests DavidHarberSundials.co.uk page to switch it to "follow".
- Peter Gorman requests LightMandalas.co.uk page to switch it to "follow".
- LocalFitness requests LocalFitness.com.au page to switch it to "follow".
- Frances requests CountyMarquees.com page to switch it to "follow".
- Ben F requests PsychicCosmos.com page to switch it to "follow".
- horseflyuk requests Imrubbish.co.uk page to switch it to "follow".
- Viknet365 requests ksar.ighnda.net page to switch it to "follow".
- Jane Davies requests BusinessMobilePhone.net page to switch it to "follow".
- Ross Hudgens requests phiROSSophy.com page to switch it to "follow".
- sandager91 requests Gladeunger.dk page to switch it to "follow".
- David Agasi requests Morningstar.co.uk page to switch it to "follow".
- The Extra Mile Partnership requests theextramilepartnership.com page to switch it to "follow".
- starlagurl requests TravelPod.com page to be switched to "follow".
- Kathryn Brennar requests friedlandrealty.com page to be switched to "follow".
- Jessica Boyle requests huephoria.com page to be switched to "follow".
- digitalarts requests scrapgolduk.co.uk page to be switched to "follow".
- Greg Laughlin requests bankfox.com page to be switched to "follow".
- wopg requests Tprf.org page to be switched to "follow".
Suggestions:
What if you were to reward editors who specifically found and added content to a certain number of websites that don’t already exist in the wiki? Say, perhaps, at least 3? That, in conjunction with minimum time that you must be a member before getting your links followed, would both cut down on fly by night editors, only interested in adding their own content, as well as encourage people to find new sites to add.
I know that for myself, and I would guess for most people who are comfortable writing content, doing reviews on 3 sites that are not competing with mine would not be burdensome in the least.
Recently sparked by AboutUs.org + Nofollow = Wha...? --Michael VanDeMar
More Discussion
As we formulate a concrete policy, sysops have the privilege to turn on follow links. I propose that this privilege be used at the discretion of sysops. For example, if a page for an interesting (and not bad-acting) website has at least a few edits made on more than one occasion, a sysop can feel "liberal" in allowing the links to be followed. Thoughts? Julia 18:01, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
- I like this idea and have secretly acted on it on a few occasions. I feel more liberty in the hands of sysops 'and active members will also be a step in the right direction. If i come across a page with genuine effort spent on it to make it a better page, i'll share the AboutUs juice with them. --Sa'ad [ talk•email•chat ] 21:49, 24 July 2008 (PDT)
This could be detrimental!
This could be detrimental to the over all page rank of AboutUs.org pages!
This is because one of the factors that Google looks at is the number of external links and how many of those links go to high ranking pages / websites…
Although this “nofollow” edit is more than likely going to remove far more low ranking links… it could also decrease the amount of high ranking links (like the ones to the BBC.co.uk)!!
Because of this I would advise all of the "sysop's" to look at the high traffic websites on AboutUs.org as well as other well-known websites to make sure all of them have there links followed!
User:stepho123 has done a great job on many pages. Every time I seen him on the AboutUs IRC chat asking for help he has always been very cooperative and his articles are done to a full extent. I think we can trust his pages to be granted to follow links. I changed a few articles as others have as well of his when he went on IRC and requested it. user:stepho123 usually requests when he is completed with the article. Thanks for a great contribution. -- NickBurrus
