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| − | + | :* [[User:Datagrok]]: While I very much enjoy brainstorming about art and icons, I think the discussion will be unproductive until we better refine this "purpose" section. I now find it difficult to agree or disagree with much of the discussion below because of this. Specifically because I'd go in a different direction for the design of each of these: | |
| − | :* [[User:Datagrok]]: I disagree that this icon need be "bold," or even similar to the RSS icon, if we intend to use it in | + | ::* A bold RSS-like marker in the URL bar indicating "this page is a wiki, and ''may'' be edited" |
| + | ::* A symbol next to each paragraph that one may click to ''edit that text'' with wiki-like semantics | ||
| + | ::* A combination of graphics and text to ''educate the user'' about wiki semantics | ||
| + | :: An example: currently, we are employing an "RSS-like" icon (first bullet above) on [[UniversalWikiEditButton]] for the use described by the second bullet above. I disagree that this icon need be "bold," or even similar to the RSS icon, if we intend to use it in this way. The RSS icon usually appears only once, in the browser's URL bar, representing the ''availability'' of RSS feeds. A bright-orange RSS-similar icon stuck next to every small chunk of text that might be individually edited is garish and distracting. If '''[wiki-edit this]''' is something that will appear tens of times or more on a page, I'd prefer something small and muted, perhaps even a text-only single-character symbol, with a ''separate mechanism'' (bullet three) such as a hide-able block at the page header, to inform and invite the user to click on that symbol. Such an implementation would be easier to internationalize, and easier to integrate with many dissimilar wiki systems. | ||
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editbutton.com
- editbutton.org
- editbuttons.com
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editicon.com - editicon.org
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editicons.com - editicons.org
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wikibutton.com -
wikibutton.org -
wikibuttons.com - wikibuttons.org
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wikiicon.com - wikiicon.org
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- wikiicons.org
Contents
Licensing the Result
In the spirit of AssumeGoodFaith, I think the license should be PublicDomain so that it can be used as widely and creatively as possible. The flip-side (which seems a bit anti-TheWikiWay would be to copyright it and grant a license that restricts the use to certain accepted cases in order not to dilute the symbol's power. This seems like a pretty clear case of SocialContract ... NotLegalCode.
I suggest making it a CommunityMark (like "BarCamp" is and to some extent, the FeedIcon itself). It would be the right thing for a universal edit button, and would also lend support to the CommunityMark concept. -- PeterKaminski
Agree - trademark should be registered that represents confornmity to a ruleset about that type of wiki
- public wiki (open particiaption, all indians no chiefs, public wiki guidelines in effect)
- community wiki (open participation, local guidelines in effect)
- protected wiki (requires registration/authentification)
- secure wiki (edit by invitation/application)
these can be conveyed by different colors?
Brainstorming
- Why does the RSS icon work?
- Simplicity. The image consists of a square containing one quarter of three concentric circles.
- Ping! The idea of RSS as a feed, an outgoing source of data, coupled with pinging is hinted at with these shapes, which could represent:
- a radar screen, bouncing back info from a target
- a satellite sending out information whilst receiving
- As an icon its goal is simply to inform of a feed. It is not a call to action.
- Which, to be pedantic, differs from the purpose of a "Universal Wiki Edit Button."
Usability testing
A quick a dirty method for usability testing the icon is as follows:
- For the set of edit icons (including existing ones like the MoinMoin comic bubble, or the ubiquitous pen),
- take one control icon (say, a green dot)
- and take N (e.g. 3) random edit icons.
- Randomly permute this set of N+1 icons
- and display this set to
- a randomly selected user
- and ask the user to choose which single icon means 'edit'.
- Run this experiment many, many, many, many times,
- and choose the icon that receives the most votes,
- provided it has been selected more than the others a stastically significant amount.
Simple Branding i.e. CommunityMark
made by Helge Fahrnberger. Used on a couple of Wikis, eg. barcamp.at and osafa.org (also in french, portuguese and swahili). ReiniUrban used it on his company internal closed PhpWiki at RoCoCoCamp.info and mentioned that it was on many Austrian wikis, floating right at the top. No edit functionality. There are black, blue and yellow examples.
Another simple branding PhpWiki used in 2004 
, combining the edit button with the logo. But it was too ugly.
Auto-Discovery
Maybe what we are talking about is a button that shows up in the url bar to let folks know the page they are on is a wiki. MarkDilley
rel-edit
I also want to mention that I've proposed a "rel-edit" microformat; see http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2007-May/009693.html]. --Evan 18:17, 25 May 2007 (PDT)
This is great! microformats all the way! --Vinh Nguyen
