Welcome All New Contributors/October2007.2
Welcomers
See Category:AboutUs Welcomer.
Obed, Asad, Umair, KristinaWeis, DannyG, BryanDaugherty, TedErnst... add yourself!
Task
AboutUs Goals Supported
This task supports A Vibrant Community goal
What is this?
Welcome all logged-in users who make an edit this iteration. This task also includes the follow-up interaction with welcomed folks that respond.
Why we are doing this
To create a sense of community.
We have reached our goals when
Welcome
- All people who have registered and edited are personally welcomed.
- Our goal is to do this within 24 hours of their first edit
Follow-up
- All welcomed folks that respond, either on their own talk page, on the welcomer's talk page, or by email, are then communicated with in a personal way by the welcomer.
- Our goal for this is again 24 hours from the user's message.
Keeping track of our progress towards our goals
What is the metric we can use here?
- How about we log here daily how many people registered that day, and how many contributed and how many we welcomed?
- # registered
- # edited
- # welcomed
Keeping track of Work/Time as a community
- 30-Sep-2007
Discussion
further discussion to be refactored
How to find users to welcome
Kristina had asked me how I found so many new users. So I told her that I was watching the main page. In the "Currently On-Line" section is a list of users. If their name was blue they had something on their user page. So I would click on the Red ones which meant nothing on the user page. Then I would look at discussion and if it was red as well meant nothing there. I would click on it and add my template. If it was blue I left it alone and closed the window. Now you added a UserPage Template and that messed things up. Now I have to look for Blue links in the "Currently On-Line" as well. You know how if you have visited a link it changes to a different colour? Well I keep my history in my browser for AboutUs so I know if I have visited that user, I don't have to again. If I click on a blue link now and the discussion is still red, I give them a welcome if not close the window and go on. I used the new template today for a bit but found it hard to do this since the Discussion Link did not have colouring for a link. I went back to the old one.--DannyG | talk 02:22, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
I found another area to find new users. The new template for new users automatically puts them in a New user category. I have almost finished the first column and it has taken me almost 6 hours on top of watching for new users on the front page. --DannyG | talk 08:22, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
still needs refactoring
- One thing Simon said was if the person had edited something, then the welcomer personalized the message to include references to what they edited. Until your work yesterday, that was the focus of welcoming, to only do those that have edited something, and to make it highly personalized, about what they have done so far. What you did yesterday seems much wider (catching more people) and potentially shallower (for those that have edited). What do you think about this? Kristina is our most experienced welcomer, which is why I reached out to her after the IRC interaction. I'm thinking that this is worth some more conversation. What do you think? TedErnst | talk 08:24, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
I think it is worth more of a discussion. Kristina seemed to like what I was doing so far. Like I said I got some reactions from it. Oh ... and no need to explain yourself about the talk. I was just letting you know I am really easy going. --DannyG | talk 08:30, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
- I definitely like what you're doing, no question about that. The reason to talk with Kristina, in my opinion, is to decide if what we were doing before is still worth doing (the deeper approach), and if it is, how can we do both? We should probably copy this discussion (pieced back together) to an appropriate task or project page for welcoming. Are you interested in doing that? TedErnst | talk 08:36, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
Not enough experience on copying to a project yet. I might as you to do it till i get more knowledge. I am learning alot. From you I learned how to edit a template and make my own. I would love to be part of the process as well. --DannyG | talk 08:39, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
- I'd like to start Welcoming People as, being in New Zealand, I am sometimes online at times when other parts of the world are asleep. I'm just a little confused now with the new Personal Page template that appears when a person Joins up. I thought maybe that had replaced a personal welcome but I still think personal is much better.
- I need a way to say: Welcome and then to ask people not to make unconstructive edits. This needs to be said in a friendly but firm way so that those who are just "testing the waters" or actually do mean harm but could be changed over to constructive active members feel welcomed and want to participate. I think I see a lot of unconstructive edits because of the times I am online.
- Also I think some people get confused between regular Pages and Personal Page and write up their company or webpage info on their personal page. I'd like to have a helpful way to point this out to people. A list of suggestive statements that cover various scenarios would be really helpful to me and other new or maybe welcomers. thanks -- User:Di | talk 01:59, 2 October 2007 (PDT)
- Replied on your TalkPage, Di. KristinaWeis 14:33, 2 October 2007 (PDT)
Edit(s) vs. No Edits
I think that of the two welcoming people that have made an edit is probably the most beneficial to building community, but the other can produce results and it doesn't take as long to do since there isn't any real way to personalize these sorts of messages. My thoughts are that welcome messages to people that haven't edited should be quite distinct from a message that would be left for someone who has been editing, i.e with more of a focus on "Welcome, I noticed you haven't edited anything yet... did you know you can just hit the edit tab b/c this is wiki" or something like that with edited users getting more of a "Nice work on PageX - let me know if you need any help." I tweaked something a few days back which might help catch new users that have given an e-mail address - Confirmation Complete, which is what new users see when they click to confirm their e-mail. KristinaWeis | **talk** 12:58, 17 September 2007 (PDT)
- Recently we've had some great additions to our welcoming team and a great effort is being made to 1) personally welcome users who have made edits and 2) welcome and invite newly registered users to edit who have not yet. I'd like to try out separating these two in our log at WelcomingPeople so that we can more easily track the numbers and progress of each sort of welcome.
- Excellent idea! Obed Suhail
WelcomingPeopleConnections
This is an idea that MarkDilley and I spoke briefly about. I think it may be helpful for us to log the successes and connections that are made through our welcoming efforts, namely through the responses that we receive from people that we have welcomed. This is a measure of the people that 100% received our message and it is an indicator a level of engagement that has been achieved with this user since they message back. I think it may be interesting to compare over time or WelcomingPeople log versus this one and see what pattens may emerge and what they may mean for how we can more effectively welcome and engage future users. KristinaWeis 14:45, 1 October 2007 (PDT)
- Great idea! TedErnst | talk 14:53, 1 October 2007 (PDT)
- I like this Idea. Obed Suhail
