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| − | <noinclude>< [[AboutUsLogo]] | + | <div class= style="padding:2em 2em; color:#35727a; font-size:120%; width:1oo%; margin-top:3em;"> |
| − | : Consensus Poll template, to decide on a logo:
| + | To the right are various versions of the AboutUs logo (see [[AboutUsBadge|more]]). A short description of each file is underneath each image. |
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| − | [[Image:AboutUsLogoVote.png]]
| + | These images are all 72dpi, RGB, and intended for screen viewing. If you would like additional sizes, or vector versions of the AboutUs logo, please email Help@AboutUs.org. |
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| − | Follow the consensus poll at [[AboutUsLogo]].</noinclude>
| + | Thanks! |
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| + | - the AboutUs Team |
| − | ==We're Done When ...==
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| − | We are definitely done with this version of the [[AboutUsLogo]] if we can reach and maintain the levels of consensus described in this section.
| + | [[Image:AboutUsLogo_300px.jpg]] |
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| − | [[GoThreshold]]s | + | [[Image:AboutUsLogo_150px.jpg]] |
| − | * We need at least 10 ActiveMembers. As many as are interested, are welcome to participate.
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| − | ** We need 90% of ActiveMember participants to agree.
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| − | * We need at 10 ActiveMembers who '''are''' [[AboutUsStaff]]. As many as are interested, are welcome to participate.
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| − | ** We need 90% of [[AboutUsStaff]] participants to agree.
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| − | [[DoneTimer]] | + | [[Image:AboutUsLogo_32bitTransparent.png]] |
| − | * This document stays above the [[GoThreshold]]s and remains unchanged for at least 48 hours. The timer will be reset if there are any modifications made to the proposed logo.
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| − | ===How to participate===
| + | [[Image:AboutUsLogo_8bitTransparent.png]] |
| − | If you feel strongly about this decision, please engage in the consensus poll by:
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| − | '''Entering your name and leaving a ''yes'' status.''' Feel free to articulate why you are at yes so that others can benefit from your thinking. Also, please feel warmly welcomed to engage with those at '''not yet''' to help them articulate their thoughts and improve the policy.
| + | [[Image:AboutUsLeaf2.png]] |
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| − | '''Entering your name with a ''not yet'' status.''' If you are not in agreement with the policy, please feel to make [[EfficientlyExpressedSuggestions]] either by editing the policy itself or in the comment next to your '''not yet'''. If you feel that we're about to be done even though the decision is flawed, you have a responsibility to engage with the other participants and ensure that they understand your misgivings. Remember, you can alway give yourself more time to articulate your concern by making edits. Edits always reset the '''DoneTimer'''. If you do nothing, the policy can succeed without your agreement.
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| + | [[Image:AboutUsGreenLogo.gif]] |
| − | If you don't feel strongly about this decision, please feel warmly welcomed to work on other things. If you are feeling [[ProcessFatigue]] please feel warmly welcomed to take a break. Before leaving, please consider leaving either a '''yes''' or '''not yet''' status with an explanatory comment.
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| − | Taking a break while leaving a '''yes''' status means:
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| − | : "Given the [[GoThreshold]]s for this poll and the people who are participating it feels extremely unlikely that this poll could succeed without creating a high quality "edit this page" icon. I trust you all to watch out for my interests and come to a good decision. If the [[GoThreshold]]s were lower, or if Suzy Trustworthy wasn't actively participating I might feel otherwise. I know that Suzy Trustworthy will ping me if I need to become involved again. So, have at it friends and know that I support your effort in spirit even if I can't actively participate right now."
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| − | Taking a break while leaving a '''not yet''' status means:
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| − | : "Given the GoThresholds for this poll and the people who are participating it feels like this poll might pass even if the icon isn't high quality. If the GoThresholds were higher, or if Suzy Trustworthy was actively participating I might feel otherwise. But since the thresholds are so low and no one I know from my own personal experience to be trustworthy is involved, I'm going to ensure that the final results are better by leaving my vote a '''not yet'''. The plan can still succeed, it will just require higher levels of support to counteract my '''not yet'''."
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| − | ===Status: Not Yet ===
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| − | * We have {{BelowThreshold|(64%)}} (7) YES of {{AboveThreshold|11}} [[ActiveMember]]s
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| − | * We have {{BelowThreshold|(87%)}} (13) YES of {{AboveThreshold|15}} [[ActiveMember]]s who '''are''' [[AboutUsStaff|Staff]]
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| − | === Participants ===
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| − | # [[User:Ddemarest|Diana Demarest]] {{NotYet|The logo is beautifully done but for me it just doesn't "say" About Us. Perhaps an element could be added that says "look" or "investigate further" or "community building". }}
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| − | # [[User:Saudiqbal|Saudiqbal]] - {{NotYet|The logo is clean but it does not look good for AboutUs system. The color brown is also not looking good. It should be colorful like [[:Image:Saudlogo.jpg]]. Make it cool and simple.}}
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| − | # [[User:Justwally|Wally Wilson]] {{NotYet|Aside from my own inability to see "AboutUs" there are some visual gestalt issues I am unable to resolve between the font face and the art, itself. The art does not lend itself well to even the hint of a serif; possibly Swiss 721 (maybe condensed) family. I'll discuss in detail below }}
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| − | # [[User:Kiwi|Kiwi]] - {{NotYet|It is a very attractive logo, but it doesn't seem to have any connection with AboutUs. If I knew nothing about the site and only saw the logo, I might assume it was about gardening or genealogy.}}
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| − | # [[User:Katonal|Katonal]] - {{Yes|It's great.}}
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| − | # [[User:Simon Koldyk|Simon Koldyk]] - {{Yes|Very well done, although I'd like to see the whole logo in the favicon if possible.}}
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| − | # [[User:Dclacroix|DrewMyers]] - {{Yes|I really like this logo.}}
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| − | # [[User:ShelleySchoepflinSanders|Shelley Schoepflin Sanders]] - {{Yes|Organic, vibrant, and appealing.}}
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| − | # [[Nathan]] - {{Yes|I really like it as well.}}
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| − | # [[User:Tretter|Tretter]] - {{Yes|Looks great! I love it!!}}
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| − | # [[User:Redlake6|Redlake6]] - {{Yes|I am partial to the original, but this one's really cool - go for it!}}
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| − | ==== [[ActiveMember]] [[AboutUsStaff|Staff]] ====
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| − | # [[TakKendrick]] - {{NotYet|This is perfect. Waiting for the undetermined catchphrase to be determined. I think "Co-Elaborating the Web" might be it or awfully darn close to it.}}
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| − | # [[Tanwir Shah]] - {{NotYet|but almost a yes. See discussion below.}}
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| − | # [[ScottKeeler]] - {{Yes|I'd drop the serif on the '''U''' and I'd prefer a three color scheme '''[[:Image:3colorLogo.gif|(brown, blue, orange)]]''' instead of a two color scheme (brown, blue). We need to drop the catch phrase though, or at least keep it separate from the logo design poll}}
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| − | # [[Vinh Nguyen]] - {{Yes|I feel very good about this logo. I think it conveys many things AboutUs that speak to the ideas of: collaboration, community building, emergence, growth and organic structures. It is visually strong while maintaining a certain elegance. It also is very flexible, meaning it can be used in various ways as well as a base for other derivations.}}
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| − | # [[John Stanton]] - {{Yes|It works very well for me, simple and unique}}.
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| − | # [[Brandon CS Sanders]] - {{YES|Soooooooo happy}}
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| − | # [[Isabel]] - {{YES|Love it- clean, modern, simple.}}
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| − | # [[MarkDilley]] - {{Yes|I do think the bottom serif on the '''t''' can be straightened out to respond to concerns listed below. I like this logo very much}}
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| − | # [[Julia]] - {{Yes|}}
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| − | # [[Ray King]] - {{Yes|We've been through a lot of possibilities and I was afraid we might have to "settle", but that's not the case and I really like this one and feel confident moving forward with it!}}
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| − | # [[Asad Butt]] - {{Yes|It's beautiful and suggestive. So perfectly alright to me.}}
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| − | # [[Mohsen Gilani]] - {{Yes| Very nice and I like it. Initially I was little concerned about the pale colour on top but as long as the it is growing, perfect.}}
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| − | # [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] - {{Yes|By the way, I think Scott means '''AbouWs''', rather than '''AboutWs'''.}}
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| − | # [[ChrisBabson]] - {{Yes|I don't think we're going to do any better than this. Great work Vinh!}}
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| − | # [[Obed Suhail]] - {{Yes|Original and simple. I like it!}}
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| − | # [[Kasey]]- {{Yes| It's alive!}}
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| − | # [[Ian_Schray]]- {{Yes| Really nice logo, Vinh.}}
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| − | No matter how hard I try, I can't see the AboutWs. [[MarkDilley]]
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| − | * I agree Mark, I was/is not very apparent to me either. However, I do understand how one could see it and have made some adjustments to hopefully push this along. Aside from the two colors, the curves at the bottom of the text should hopefully undulate a little less now. [[Vinh Nguyen]]
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| − | [[Tanwir Shah]]: The leaf, and the three abstract shapes creating it, aren't supposed to specifically convey a "global community collaborating in one collective aim." Instead the logo attempts to evoke ideas of collaboration, growth and emergent ideas/communities. In that sense I believe the proposed logo is on target. Also, the emergent leaf works on a worldly level in that we as animals are familiar with flora and nature as part of our lives; it's a bit more universal than, say, curved lines that resemble orbits circling something else feigning a globe. As for what we are all about, I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on this topic. To me, [[AboutUs]] seems almost too rapidly developing to be able to nail down a specific mission. --[[Vinh Nguyen]]
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| − | As I mentioned above, this logo is flexible in uses and should be able to be used in various derivatives. But, more importantly, it also speaks to future projects, like TopSoil, that may very well be served by this identity. Hope you like!--[[Vinh Nguyen]]
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| − | [[Tak Kendrick|Tak]], the undetermined catchphrase really shouldn't be considered at this point in time. I apologize for causing any confusion by including that bit of text. All I was trying to do was illustrate a possible use of the logo and text--which, by the way, I initially tested with "Co-elaborating the web." --[[Vinh Nguyen]]
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| − | [[Vinh Nguyen]]: Hmm, yes, I see what you mean. I'm also not completely sure what we are about. The About Us identity is gradually emerging and is yet to form any kind of concrete shape. I must admit that after reading some of the comments on what others thought we were about, I felt a little depressed. some people feel that this is a directory of other websites. I'd like to think we are much more than that. We have the potential to be many things to many people and I felt these comments were pidgeonholing this site into a particular role. I came to work on Monday feeling that if we were only a directory then I was really wasting my time on [[TheStorytellersBazaar]] that I have been working on. A discussion at work put things right though.
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| − | I see your point about your logo design too. In fact this new design does give me a feeling of growth. I especially like the box around the leaves and how one of the leaves grows beyond the box's border. This last thing has won me over to this design as to me it suggests growth beyond the barriers that are imposed on us or we impose on ourselves. It feels very liberating. The only down side is that when the leaf in the logo emerges from this barrier it is already dying. The yellow colour (to me) suggests Autumn and the approach of death. i would like to see a vibrant bright green leaf emerging from the box. Having said that I do like the combination of colours you have used so the yellow does play an important role in the logo. Have you tried having one of the other leaves in yellow or does that mess things up? [[User:Tanwir Shah|Tanwir Shah]]
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| − | [[User:Justwally|Wally Wilson]]: Please forgive me while I think aloud about this design...it is the only way I know of to convey <i>some</i> of the background behind my thoughts. I am not an artist (IANAA), but I am a keen observer of nature and an urban forester/ecologist. The design elements of the leaves are clean, simple, and (even) peaceful/elegant. The stem visually captures the apical dominance found in growing vines in nature. The container is beautiful, its curves aren't forced and it is well-anchored on the bottom, left-hand corner in a way that provides a dual starting point for my eyes (one for the logo, and the same for the "AboutUs"). In light of the accurate, elegant depiction of nature, the font, with its serifs, is visually distracting to me...before I ever get to actually read it, it tells me (for a lack of a better set of words) that it doesn't play well with the logo (nature). Aside from all of my silly waxing, I cannot shake the idea that brown and yellow leaves mean Autumn, and that blue leaves mean _____? This design could really work for me, but the font and the colors leave me with a big question-mark on my forehead.
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