UberPatrol
http://www.aboutus.org/patrol_tool
This is an advanced tool to help peer review RecentChanges, would you like to help?
Contents
How it works
- It gives you a view of all edits that are unpatrolled
- the oldest page with an unpatrolled edit through the most current edit, regardless of patrolled status.
- rollback, this is a decision making point, once a human has looked at the page and made a decision to rollback, we don't have to look at it again i.e. all edits marked as patrolled. This is why we have the recently patrolled links on the side - so folks can tab out the page to check. This is no different than regular patrolling with this tool.
- This is not "no different than regular patrolling". With regular patrolling, you can catch your mistake when you rollback to the wrong version. With uber, you cannot.
See also: UberPatrolFixes
How it should look
- html should not be visible on the diff list on the right side.
- time stamps of the edits should be there
WelcomingTool idea
Dev is way ahead of us! WelcomingTool
Would it be better from a "community" perspective to have this tool work by users, rather than by pages? or some combination? 07:14, 29 August 2007 (PDT)
- I think it would be a nice idea to have the two options i.e. either patrolling recent changes made by logged in users only or anonymous users. Obed Suhail
- Also, if we have a tool for doing recent changes by users, it would make welcoming easier. Obed Suhail
I'd like us to think some more about this, especially in light of recent welcoming advances. TedErnst | talk 11:35, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
Sorry, to be more clear. Currently, welcome and RC are done is two different ways. Or, people doing RC for the purpose of finding people to welcome do RC differently than those doing RC by itself. The idea here is to see if we can't bridge that gap somehow. Why can't we all be doing RC in a way that furthers the welcoming cause? And when welcoming, the RC we're doing should be efficient, and shouldn't have to be re-done by people doing RC in the non-welcoming way. Is this any more clear? TedErnst | talk 14:23, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
There is a Welcoming Tool in the works, WelcomingTool. Normal patrol by user would be nearly worthless in my opinion, because if user a made an edit before Known User B did, a's edit would still be unpatrolled and so still show up in RC and uberpatrol, even though the state the page is at now (Known User B's edit) has been patrolled and OK'd 75.148.50.78 14:54, 13 September 2007 (PDT)
punt
We need to make sure "punt" works properly, so if any patroller has a question about an edit, they can move on to do other patrolling, and someone else can come back to them later to pair.
- Punt is the term that we have on the tool, but really these are needs attention pages. I would be curious if I came to the site and for some reason found that people were punting the wiki page about my site. :-) ~~ MarkDilley
"&" workaround
In case you find a pagename with the "&" character, Uber won't work, as you've probably noticed. You can get around this by going to regular RC, hiding patrolled, change to 2000 edits, or whatever number you need to see the one in question, scroll to the bottom, and manually patrol it.
flag
- Button in uberpatrol to flag pages as adult content
This does work now. And, it would be nice if the link did something visual so we'd know we actually clicked it, like change color or something. TedErnst | talk 15:36, 22 October 2007 (PDT)
idea to make catching spammers more fun for community members
Currently uber is great. It's systematic. It starts from the oldest, so we never leave anything at the end of the queue to rot. Awesome! What this system doesn't allow, however, is catching the spammer right off. Very often, especially over the weekend, we have spam bots that edit twice with different IPs, making rolling back a several step process. While Dev plans above to give us a "roll-to" will go a long way to help us, what about allowing people to choose to patrol the newest edits first? This allows us to rollback right away if there's spam or vandalism. Maybe the forward sorting could filter out any page with unpatrolled by more than one editor, just leave those for the backward sorting method we currently use. And let patrollers choose which sorting to use. Thoughts? TedErnst | talk 22:35, 16 September 2007 (PDT)
- Excellent idea! Obed Suhail
Rollback
I thought there was a rollback function to revert unconstructive edits from a single person or ip. We have rollto, which is great, and I think that both in tandem will be fab! ~~ MarkDilley
- Mark, we won't need rollback once the bug in rollto is fixed. The idea is we'll be able to roll to any edit, including the one right before this last edit, if there was only one. I've talked with Umar, who did UberPatrolFixes, and Jason, who's apparently supposed to fix this bug (doesn't need a task, etc, etc). I was hoping it would be fixed by now. TedErnst | talk 13:15, 9 October 2007 (PDT)
RollTo
Would be nice to have a RollTo summary. Thoughts? Obed Suhail 04:40, 22 October 2007 (PDT)
Sensitivities
Uberpatrol is sensitive to disruptions in the connection between recentchanges and the pages that they point to. For example, if a page is redirected or moved sometimes it gets a new page id that doesn't coincide with the id in the recentchange. Symptoms of this behavior include:
- Uberpatrol working for you but not your friend
- Every other load of uberpatrol working for you
What's happening is that the broken rc is getting locked by you but can't complete loading. The next time you load it gets the next one that works, then back to the original.
ActiveRecord::RecordNotFound (Couldn't find Page with ID=10064705):
/app/models/recentchange.rb:55:in `get_page'
/app/controllers/patrol_controller.rb:58:in `next_title_to_patrol'
We cleared the problem by setting rc_patrolled to 1 in the offending record.
tweak that would save us time
There are tons and tons of edits every day that are blank. My guess is that the page creation bot saves wtih a carriage return at the end of the page. Then, when someone clicks edit and save, mediawiki elimiates that carriage return so it registers as an edit in RC that needs to be patrolled. Wouldn't it be easy for uberpatrol or something else ot autopatrol these for us? TedErnst (talk) 11:45, 29 November 2007 (PST)
- I totally agree. Obed Suhail 20:30, 2 December 2007 (PST)
Old Version
http://www.aboutus.org/uberpatrol.html
Languages
Not sure how hard this can be, Google does have a very extensive language translator for webpages. Would it be possible to have pages not in English have an open to Google or something to translate to English? I see a lot of edits here usually in French and German and Spanish.
Also is there a way to skip something you're unsure about in Uber?
--Nick([talk]-[HFAD]-[contribs]-[email]) 12:45, 15 January 2008 (PST)
- There is a wrongly named (in my opinion) function that is called Punt and puts links on the NeedsAttention page. It marks the page as patrolled but then places it on that page. I think we need much better solutions for language support! ~~ MarkDilley
