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		<title>Fridemar: Factored out some remarks on TiddlyWiki </title>
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				<updated>2008-07-11T21:40:36Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Factored out some remarks on TiddlyWiki &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To make this file even more useful, I tried out a selfcontained {{g|TiddlyWiki}} microformat wiki, serving as a (daily) log with links/images etc&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;. TiddlyWiki is freeware, allows commercial use,&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;To make this file even more useful, I tried out a selfcontained &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;-&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;{{g|TiddlyWiki}} microformat wiki, serving as a (daily) log with links/images etc.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;supports a timeline, i.e. an internal blog and has a large community,&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Fridemar</name></author>	</entry>

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		<id>https://aboutus.com/index.php?title=SharedEcommerceIntro&amp;diff=15948611&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Fridemar: From &lt;-&gt; SharedEcommerce</title>
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				<updated>2008-07-11T21:07:06Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;From &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/SharedEcommerce&quot; title=&quot;SharedEcommerce&quot;&gt;SharedEcommerce&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;From &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; [[SharedEcommerce]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''Fridemar:''&lt;br /&gt;
Hello Aaron, dear wikizens:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
what do you think about the following jump-start into [[XOB]], by using a shared ecommerce solution, that can be started immediately by you or by me, as soon as we both agree on this approach.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think of a prototypical &amp;quot;emulated&amp;quot; [[Meatball:PublicBankView]], that is realized by publishing XOB income, currently based on bootstrapping the XOB-concept.&lt;br /&gt;
For this, we introduce the concept of an AuditedSignature for XOB-workteams.&lt;br /&gt;
Currently we two represent an initial XOB-team, consisting of two members, where each one signs his public collaborative contributions to the concept. (This can be done, whereever in the Web this pioneering business model is welcome).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To make the signature an AuditedSignature, we include a PayLink,&lt;br /&gt;
that allows the reader to click on it, giving them the information, how much financial support is given from each 1st day of the month until the current day ''(to the highly creative and labor-intensive, otherwise unpaid work for inventing and developing ExtremeOpenBusiness for all)''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The public financial statement simply consists of a daily file for download, that gives nearly realtime information on the monthly account period.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Since years I have been observing the market for micropayment solutions and I think, I have found a qualified service provider, listed in Aboutus as [[E-Junkie.com]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Have a look at [[http://www.e-junkie.com/ej/faq.general.php E-Junkie:FAQ]] and you can see the benefits for XOB-teams.&lt;br /&gt;
* Just $5 per month ''(for ten different files, inserted from the price table-- fp)''&lt;br /&gt;
* No bandwidth limit&lt;br /&gt;
* No transaction limit&lt;br /&gt;
* No transaction fee&lt;br /&gt;
If n=2 XOB-teamworkers share this account, this has the following&lt;br /&gt;
benefits:&lt;br /&gt;
* Cost reduction 5/2 =2.50 pro member&lt;br /&gt;
* Each team-member gets the account info of the other(s) for free&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For n&amp;gt;5 XOB-teamworkers their &amp;quot;financial engagement&amp;quot; appears to be compensated by one single audit download.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
As this service is open to all (albeit protected by a say 0.99 US$ download fee), it is maximal credible and reliable to the public, because it is also open to the tax-authorities.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So these benefits add another incentive for us as well as new team-members.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Every active community member, with a [[RealName]], convincing publications in the past and collaborative contributions to XOB, qualifies. &amp;lt;-&amp;gt;[[http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SuggestionSharedEcommerceSolution Meatball:AaronPoeze]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 16:45, 4 July 2008 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
PS.:&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know [[http://www.buckdrop.com/]]? This is another initiative from the lead programmer of E-Junkie, who is known to the Google Developers as one of the most active API programmers in the field of {{g|Google's+SocialOpen+API}}. I have this info from [[http://youtube.com/results?search_query=E-Junkie YouTube:E-Junkie]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Aaron:''&lt;br /&gt;
Hello again.  I have been busy in life and thank you for your patience.  I think this is a good idea and matches what we envisioned for public banking and a method which might work in the XOB context.  It's great you have found what may be a suitable micropayment service because I understand it's all about fee minimisation at such small payment levels.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore I agree this is worth a go once we can set up such a functional page.  What do we need to do for this?  How have your OpenSS efforts gone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No I am not familiar with buckdrop but I am hearing a great deal that google is about to merge into pseudo OS operations offering all sorts of applications from a web basis like their already extensive suite by opening the development to third parties.  If this programmer is very active they may become important.   will have a look at those links to understand what you mean better. [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 23:32, 5 July 2008 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Fridemar:''&lt;br /&gt;
To initiate the open Ecommerce process, I suggest, that we subscribe&lt;br /&gt;
both a free 1 week trial, where each of us uploads a test file for down-&lt;br /&gt;
load at 0.99 US$. I download yours, say ExtremeOpenBusinessJournal-AaronPoeze-2008-07-07.html, and you download my ExtremeOpenBusinessJournal-FridemarPache-2008-07-07.html.&lt;br /&gt;
It appears to be practical to use a uniform format:&lt;br /&gt;
ExtremeOpenBusinessJournal-UserName-yyyy-mm-dd.html.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To make this file even more useful, I tried out a selfcontained {{g|TiddlyWiki}} microformat wiki, serving as a (daily) log with links/images etc. TiddlyWiki is freeware, allows commercial use,&lt;br /&gt;
supports a timeline, i.e. an internal blog and has a large community,&lt;br /&gt;
which asks for donations. The best donation, we can make them, is to&lt;br /&gt;
show them, how to replace donations by XOB.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Within the test period, we can also explore how we can organize our journals and account-sharing, asking the E-Junkie support specific questions in their forum or even extending the dialogue to AboutusOrg, similar like&lt;br /&gt;
[[DomainRegistrarTransfer]], but this time perhaps as a multilogue.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Besides that, I invite you and all interested wikizens to join the&lt;br /&gt;
[[http://trailfire.com/fridemar/trails/63143/E-Junkie.com WikiTrail:E-Junkie.com]] ''(see [[Meatball:WikiTrail]])'' to organize our growing knowledge and skills on [[E-Junkie.com]] and at the same time preparing the open dialogue with the ecommerce provider.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the test phase, we initiate our ExtremeOpenBusinessJournal with mutual 0.99 US$ transactions and with our internal notes.&lt;br /&gt;
The downloads are primarily tests for us two. If anybody else is motivated to download in this pre-alpha phase, we consider this as extreme curiosity, that adds to our initial XOB-income to be listed on the following day in sequence :-)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Are you ready?&lt;br /&gt;
What about starting ExtremeOpenBusinessJournal tomorrow with a free trial of &amp;lt;-&amp;gt; [[E-Junkie]]?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 16:42, 6 July 2008 (PDT)&lt;br /&gt;
PS.:&lt;br /&gt;
Meanwhile I have subscribed and I am preparing a file to upload.&lt;br /&gt;
The subscription is easy and realtime.&lt;br /&gt;
The same holds for the upload-file option.&lt;br /&gt;
I hope you have a registered Paypal (classic or Pro-) account, although E-Junkie has some other payment provider options.&lt;br /&gt;
I replaced the filename prefix XOB by ExtremeOpenBusiness, to avoid&lt;br /&gt;
name-clashes with domain-owners of the 3-letter domains: XOB.xyz.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''Aaron:''&lt;br /&gt;
It's great you have moved ahead with using the system which is after all the best way to find it's worth and strengths and weaknesses within our XOB context.  Yes I agree and will work to make this happen now.  I totally missed this page it was not on my watch list but is now. [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 00:01, 9 July 2008 (PDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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