Questionable Content Policy - Revision history

ART: Outdated and previously answered question in discussion page

2007-10-26T06:58:29Z

Outdated and previously answered question in discussion page

Kasey: /* Interpretation */

2007-09-07T20:50:15Z

‎Interpretation

Kasey: /* Interpretation */

2007-09-07T20:49:45Z

‎Interpretation

TedErnst: removing policy category

2007-09-04T20:59:37Z

removing policy category

Eyaluth at 20:52, 4 September 2007

2007-09-04T20:52:21Z

DannyG: /* Question */

2007-09-04T02:29:01Z

‎Question

DannyG at 02:09, 4 September 2007

2007-09-04T02:09:42Z

ART: /* Discussion */

2007-09-04T01:55:54Z

‎Discussion

DannyG: /* Implementation */

2007-09-04T01:07:58Z

‎Implementation

ART at 01:00, 4 September 2007

2007-09-04T01:00:12Z

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	This policy is the only viable solution that can be made for the pedophilia and alike websites without taking on the complete and agressive debate of determining what is pedophilia and who is a pedophile, etc. That debate will not be resolved on this forum as millions have not found a solution thus far and to honestly believe we will find one here is childish and diverting from the actual problems facing the site. All I suggest is we get back to business and get this project completed sooner so we can all move on to more important aspects of our lives.		This policy is the only viable solution that can be made for the pedophilia and alike websites without taking on the complete and agressive debate of determining what is pedophilia and who is a pedophile, etc. That debate will not be resolved on this forum as millions have not found a solution thus far and to honestly believe we will find one here is childish and diverting from the actual problems facing the site. All I suggest is we get back to business and get this project completed sooner so we can all move on to more important aspects of our lives.
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−	~~==Question==~~
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−	~~This is a valid question: Would this policy include a template that would agree that person entering know what type of content was in it? That would be better than 18 most likely.~~
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−	I like your idea of multi flags. My question is what would the blue flag say. I think to be safe that it should say all your reasons so that one can judge for themselves about the site and not think automatically it is one thing. If we do this then if any other site has content like yours, then they couldn't really argue any points out. The one thing we both can say is that out of all this debate we have learned what will cause an arguement.
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 * Wiki Pages that refer to pornographic sites will be tagged as  [[RefersToAdultContent]]
 * Wiki Pages that refer to No Nude pedophilia websites shall need revision before final tagging is made as there is a lot of bias in relation to the subject and a person with both the experience and legal knowledge can judge each site on its own merits. (This shall ALWAYS be a community decision)
-* Wiki Pages that refer to clothed models that are under legal the age of 18 that are in obscene or otherwise sexually related positions including zooms of genitalia and or inappropriate or sexually suggestive poses.   <<<This doesn't seem like a complete thought, will be displayed, or not, not sure what the positiobn is here. Please clarify- thanks.  [[User:Kasey|Kasey]] 13:49, 7 September 2007 (PDT)>>>
+* Wiki Pages that refer to clothed models that are under legal the age of 18 that are in obscene or otherwise sexually related positions including zooms of genitalia and or inappropriate or sexually suggestive poses.
 * Disturbingly graphic depictions of violence aren't displayed on our pages (if it were a movie, the content on our site needs to get a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPAA_film_rating_system PG-13, PG, or G rating].)
 * Any animated material (often referred to as lolicon) that pertains to children in sexual related or otherwise questionable conduct are not to be displayed on our sites and will also be tagged questionable content and AdultContent.

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 * Wiki Pages that refer to pornographic sites will be tagged as  [[RefersToAdultContent]]
 * Wiki Pages that refer to No Nude pedophilia websites shall need revision before final tagging is made as there is a lot of bias in relation to the subject and a person with both the experience and legal knowledge can judge each site on its own merits. (This shall ALWAYS be a community decision)
-* Wiki Pages that refer to clothed models that are under legal the age of 18 that are in obscene or otherwise sexually related positions including zooms of genitalia and or inappropriate or sexually suggestive poses.
+* Wiki Pages that refer to clothed models that are under legal the age of 18 that are in obscene or otherwise sexually related positions including zooms of genitalia and or inappropriate or sexually suggestive poses.   <<<This doesn't seem like a complete thought, will be displayed, or not, not sure what the positiobn is here. Please clarify- thanks.  [[User:Kasey|Kasey]] 13:49, 7 September 2007 (PDT)>>>
 * Disturbingly graphic depictions of violence aren't displayed on our pages (if it were a movie, the content on our site needs to get a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPAA_film_rating_system PG-13, PG, or G rating].)
 * Any animated material (often referred to as lolicon) that pertains to children in sexual related or otherwise questionable conduct are not to be displayed on our sites and will also be tagged questionable content and AdultContent.

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-<big>'''This is the UNOFFICIAL AboutUs Policy for Questionable Content, Created due to an obvious need.'''</big><br>
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-Please DO NOT EDIT this page as this page is the basis for a new company policy and all modifications should be discussed and then agreed to by members of administration of this website. This being the case this policy IS NOT in anyway considered standard operating procedure for the AboutUs.org website and shall not be used for any context which denotes acceptance by either the staff or of any users of the community.
+||'''The following is a ''proposed'' AboutUs policy, guideline, or process.''' The proposal may still be in development, under [[Questionable_Content_Policy/Talk|discussion]], or in the process of gathering consensus for adoption. References or links to this page should not describe it as "policy".
 == Policy ==

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 This is a valid question: Would this policy include a template that would agree that person entering know what type of content was in it? That would be better than 18 most likely.
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−	~~TAKE MY NAME OFF ANY REFERENCE REGARDING YOU AND POLICY~~.. I ~~refuse~~ to ~~participate~~ in any ~~project~~ with a ~~man~~ who is ~~breaking~~ the ~~law~~ and ~~talks about having sex with his own children~~. [[~~Misha~~]]	+	<big>'''This is the UNOFFICIAL AboutUs Policy for Questionable Content, Created due to an obvious need.'''</big><br>
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		+	Please DO NOT EDIT this page as this page is the basis for a new company policy and all modifications should be discussed and then agreed to by members of administration of this website. This being the case this policy IS NOT in anyway considered standard operating procedure for the AboutUs.org website and shall not be used for any context which denotes acceptance by either the staff or of any users of the community.
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		+	== Policy ==
		+	There is further consideration required but to protect our community from some of the obviously harmful questionable content related websites we have decided the following:
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		+	''(We do acknowledge that some and and not all website that have pedophilia related topics are not illegal and further would be considered safe for a g rated audience but we cannot view every page of every website on the internet of this topic to find out if this is the case as you can certainly appreciate, We have created this generic policy to allow our members to tag a site that may potentially cause harm to a child that may visit it and we would rather have unfortunately tagged 10 websites than not have tagged a website that harms a child and I think we can all agree that this is most certainly a valid point. Please always remember that we respect all members of our community and are still discussing this policy and welcome your input [[Questionable_Content_Policy/Talk\|here]])''
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		+	# Our website ([http://www.aboutus.org www.aboutus.org]) will not host or display illegal questionable content.
		+	# Some [[WikiPage]]s on our website ([http://www.aboutus.org www.aboutus.org]) will describe or catalog other websites on the Internet that do host and display [[Questionable_Content_Policy/Talk\|Questionable Content]]. These pages will be designated as relating to questionable content websites.
		+	# This policy may be changed only by a statement that achieves higher participation and agreement than that used to ratify any earlier version of the policy.
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		+	== Interpretation ==
		+	* A special exception is made for the titles of [[WikiPage]]s that refer to existing domain names. Some websites that we will refer to on our [[WikiPage]]s will have obscene domain names that we would normally excluded from our pages.
		+	* Questionable images of children (including thumbnails) are not displayed on our pages
		+	* Wiki Pages that refer to pornographic sites will be tagged as [[RefersToAdultContent]]
		+	* Wiki Pages that refer to No Nude pedophilia websites shall need revision before final tagging is made as there is a lot of bias in relation to the subject and a person with both the experience and legal knowledge can judge each site on its own merits. (This shall ALWAYS be a community decision)
		+	* Wiki Pages that refer to clothed models that are under legal the age of 18 that are in obscene or otherwise sexually related positions including zooms of genitalia and or inappropriate or sexually suggestive poses.
		+	* Disturbingly graphic depictions of violence aren't displayed on our pages (if it were a movie, the content on our site needs to get a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPAA_film_rating_system PG-13, PG, or G rating].)
		+	* Any animated material (often referred to as lolicon) that pertains to children in sexual related or otherwise questionable conduct are not to be displayed on our sites and will also be tagged questionable content and AdultContent.
		+	* Wiki Pages that refer to sites that contain nudity of children that is not of the professional creative art photography type such as [http://web.singnet.com.sg/~limmies1/index3.htm Ann Geddies] shall be tagged as Questionable content and depending on graphic level may also be tagged as AdultContent.
		+	* Wiki Pages that refer to sites that contain graphic depictions of violence will be tagged as [[RefersToAdultContent]]
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		+	== Implementation ==
		+	* The terms of service and other related policy documents will be updated to reflect the outcome of this process.
		+	* Viewers will see a notice at the top of the website in question that is not overly dominating but is noticeable by all users.
		+	* Questionable content pages should not be displayed in [[Special:Recentchanges\|RecentChanges]], the [[Presence Meters]], [[Special:Random\|RandomPage]], or in any of the normal areas of the site.
		+	* To prevent unwanted associations, flagged pages will not be categorized or have related domains that cross the walled garden boundary.
		+	** ''This is to prevent losing people who mind-wiped their presence on [[AboutUs]] because their domains got inadvertently linked with porn by the search engines.''
		+	** ''Also to prevent complaints about sites added to the "related domains" on some article that refers to an questionable content site.''
		+	* We hope to run a script to automatically flag most of the pages that refer to sites that contain questionable content (it won't do a perfect job). After flagging the script it should also remove category and related domain information, although users can add these later (as long as the links are to content inside the wall).
		+	* As we need to, we'll change the implementation to better implement the policy.
		+	* As we need to, we'll institute better policies using a method that honors the same principles that guided the development of the original policy.
		+	* The mechanism for getting over the wall (ie. logged in users only, verified real people only, no minors or the like) will need to be worked out in implementation planning after this policy has been ratified.
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		+	See also the following users:
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		+	* [[User:Art\|Art]] (The user that create this policy after modifying the existing Adult Content Policy ''(a firm starting point for discussions)'' Content is difficult to judge you would agree so perhaps we can create a level rating for sites in this genre and then create user poll system and community members can then judge for themselves without needing to write explanations in their comments and simply click the value they feel the site has to the community - again only suggestion)
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		+	This policy is the only viable solution that can be made for the pedophilia and alike websites without taking on the complete and agressive debate of determining what is pedophilia and who is a pedophile, etc. That debate will not be resolved on this forum as millions have not found a solution thus far and to honestly believe we will find one here is childish and diverting from the actual problems facing the site. All I suggest is we get back to business and get this project completed sooner so we can all move on to more important aspects of our lives.
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		+	[[Category:AboutUsPolicy]]