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Comment répondre aux messages sur votre page de discussion
Si quelqu'un vous envoie une note via votre page de discussion, vous verrez une alerte orange la prochaine fois que vous vous connecterez, vous notifiant de nouveaux messages. Une fois dans votre propre page de discussion (user talk:votre login), vous verrez le nom de l'autre personne en texte bleu, sur lequel vous pourrez cliquer pour aller sur sa page de discussion ou "talk" en anglais. Il y a deux moyens de répondre aux messages : dans votre propre page de discussion ou en cliquant sur le lien bleu et en répondant à la discussion de l'autre personne. Si vous lui répondez sur votre propre page de discussion, l'avantage est que la conversation sera maintenue dans un seul et même endroit. Si vous lui répondez sur sa page de discussion, l'avantage est qu'elle aura un avertissement orange la prochaine fois qu'elle se connectera luis signalant de nouveaux messages. Néanmoins si l'autre personne a réglé ses préférences de liste de suivi et d'email, elle recevra un e-mail quand vous répondrez que ce soit dans un endroit ou l'autre.
Comments
About the note, I don't have emails on my watchlist because I look at a lot of pages and don't really want to see them all just to make sure that I see all the comments about me. I don't think a lot of people will set-up watchlist and email preferences once AboutUs gets bigger and your talking to more and more people and having a lot more changes on major pages that you have on your watchlist --Simon | talk 16:15, 14 March 2007 (PDT)
- So you're saying the only way you'll see a note is if I answer you on your talk page, yes? TedErnst
- Correct. --Simon | talk 18:45, 14 March 2007 (PDT)
- Agree with that, I will only see on my talk page or if I see it in Recent Changes. MarkDilley
- Correct. --Simon | talk 18:45, 14 March 2007 (PDT)
- I try to leave notes that say "click on my name to leave me a message" (since my name redirects to my talk page) when I'm dealing with people the first time, because it's easier for me to see notes there than anywhere else. Email alerts require 1) you remember to "watch" that page and 2) you check your email. Placing a message on my talk page shows up as soon as I go to AboutUs (and users can be notified via email with their talk page as well). -- TakKendrick
How will a new person visiting aboutus for the first time easily find this "talk page etiquette" page - should this be part of the basic tour or navigation instructions? MartinPfahler
- Good point Martin. We're working on some sort of an "anatomy of a wiki" and some other revamped help/tour/navigation pages, but this is a potential problem. Since we're trying to welcome all new users, there's a good chance that new users though wouldn't have gotten a chance to see those by the time they're welcomed. So, I don't know if there is an elegant solution, but we should have this is part of the discussion. -- TakKendrick
I believe it was RayKing at recent changes camp that mentioned people have some basic differences in how their brains work, relative to how they like to learn new things (some want an overview first, some details first, some want to get to the meat right away, etc.)The the point is these basic learning differences are not many, but few. If these few differences can be weeded out when a new user first enters aboutus, then the remainder of their new learning experiences becomes less frustrating and more efficient – because one has in effect customized the process for how their brain works. “The trick” is figuring out how to do this weeding process without having the new user go through a lengthy and boring introductory “test”. Figuring this out is likely to take a few iterations. Hopefully Ray will share more about this, and it become a major focus for “user friendly” aboutus interface and design. I think too many web sites assume people all learn the same way, and they don’t. One can have different tour experiences but unless one first figures out the “brain type” – it is likely a new person could be sent down the wrong tour (not a match for their best learning mode). Also I don’t think you can ask a user what type of learning experience they prefer – many won't know, others will say one thing, yet act in anther way. In short, this is not an easy problem to figure out - but worth solving.MartinPfahler
- Yes, I think it is best to simply offer different ways to learn the material and people will naturally gravitate to the way that suits their learning style best. i.e. Some folks might love a short video on any given subject and others may find that slow and prefer just to glance at text. It'd be so awesome to have all of the learning styles for all of the help covered! - RayKing
I agree, everyone has their own style of how they'd like to talk to and respond to others. In some cases, I assume the person is watching my talk page when they leave a message so I respond there (most staff are probably likely to), otherwise if I think they'd see their talk page first, I message them there. I guess it depends from person to person; like Ray said, everyone's wired differently. Nathan (talk) / 02:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
