User talk:Spark

Welcome

Hello Spark... Welcome to AboutUs!

I noticed your edits to the wiki DomainPage for PotSnob.com and I'm excited that you've chosen to explore the wonderful world of wiki here at AboutUs.org. Welcome! Would you care to add a little bit about yourself on your personal page so the community may get to know you? (You can see mine as an example by clicking my name below.) Let me know if you have any questions along the way - you can leave a message on my talk page via the "talk" link by my name (see How do I send a message to another user? and How do I improve my signature? to learn more about how this works). You may also join the AboutUs WebIRC to chat or ask a question, and below are some links that I have found useful...

KristinaWeis | **talk** 02:17, 16 August 2007 (PDT)

p.s. I am planning to have a conversation with the rest of the staff when I get back from vacation about how marijuana/drugs fall into our AdultContentPolicy and whether such WikiPages should be flagged.

In states where medical marijuana is legal, is it also legal for children? TedErnst

Kristina,

I am so glad that you have shown a real interest in the benefits of Medical Marijuana for Children. Every state that has legalized Medical Cannabis is different in how they regulate it. California is probably the most forward thinking of all states about medical pot. In California, medical marijuana is reccomended to children who suffer from a variety of ailments, including but not limited to Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder(ADHD), Leukemia and all other forms cancer in children. Watch this link, it is to Youtube, and the Keith Olberman show who interviewed an expert that advocates the use of medical marijuana for treatment of ADD in children instead of Ritalin. It is given to kids, not by smoking, but by consuming pot in the form of food, such as a hash cookie. It is dose specific, and kids are not getting "stoned". http://youtube.com/watch?v=yj72e5q61Fs

Keeping the internet open for information is key to the survival of Freedom. Without the internet as a completely open tool, it will be destined to fail.

The truth is kids and adults will always smoke marijuana and use drugs, it has been going on since as far as we know. It is human to want to experience altered states of consciousness, it is not abnormal, or immoral, it is completely normal to wish to explore ones mind with substances. Name one group or culture that does not use one drug regularly, we are surrounded by drugs all day long, it is part of us as a species; We like To Get Stoned

Laws and popular beliefs about drugs often change, and are not so static. Modern Anti-Marijuana notions came out of the era of jim crow laws, and the Nixon Administration, two terrible blotches on American History in many respects. When one realizes how Cannabis was made illegal, and the racist reefer madness propaganda that has filtered down to our children, one might begin to understand the scope of the sickness that is the law. Targeting Minorities, and Blues and Jazz Musicians (such as Louis Armstrong), along with mexican immigrants, the first marijuana laws were passed in congress, amidst fears of how it makes the minorities act. These laws will not FOREVER Be reality, They will change.

Letting the internet and aboutus conform to the whim of one nations ignorant drug laws and moralizing is missing the whole point of the what the internet stands for-----FREEDOM

The internet is not an American Tool to spread what it believes all over the World.

It transcends national boundaries and cultures

The Internet Belongs To All of US-----Our descendents will pride AboutUS for not listening to the ignorances of the time, seeing through the muck, and becoming a true beacon of human history and knowledge. Just as the loss of the Library at Alexandria in Egypt was lost by the ignorance of people who out of a lust for power, destroyed treasures and knowledge of immeasurable value, that caused Europe to slumber in 1,000 years of DARKNESS, until our modern contemporaries rediscovered what was known in the Library: Censoring knowledge to those who truly seek it(children), will perpetuate ignorance and fear about drugs.

WE MUST NOT LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN HERE

Copernicus wrote a book that was called (On The Revolution of Celestial Spheres). This book was banned immediately by the Powers at be, and especially to kept away from children, because of its satanic verses. Those "Satanic Verses" by Copernicus described the Sun as the Center of the Solar System, and the Earth going around the sun.

Don't Censor information that truly belongs to ALL OF US, including children. All information should be made available to children so they can make the correct decision about their lives and if or how to use drugs. Trying to censor the knowledge will only cause more fear, pain and incorrect use of drugs. In the memory of those like Kepler, and Copernicus, who dared to think outside the norm, do not Censor Drug Info from kids.

Do not treat the internet like an american policy tool, or you will fail to make this a viable organization.

And if you do decide to Burn the Books afterall, and squelch out the light of Medical Marijuana, then I hope you also flag all of the anti-drug websites also, because as we all know, knowledge is power, and if you truly wish to control how the children think and learn, you would destroy all knowledge of the drugs in totality, If you don't I will, Everyday I will make sure and flag all of the anti-drug sites to make my point.

The choice is yours whether to council fear and ignorance to children. Would you rather your child not know how to use the drug properly? Out of ignorance, perhaps killing themselves in the process. If your kid Just had information that the drug was harmful, and not to use it, but did it anyways, because of the natural human curiousity to experience altered states, and overdosed out of ignorance. Could you Live With That?? Amsterdam and many forward thinking parts of our planet, hand out heroin needles for free, to drug users, and councils them on using drugs safely. Instead of counciling ignorance and oppression, Amsterdam councils information, and Freedom.

The seat of the European Enlightenment was in Amsterdam, because they were a safe haven from the thought control of imperial dominated Europe. Galileo, Copernicus, many of the greats of our history, fled to Holland during the enlightenment in order to escape persecution and death at the hands of those in power throughout Europe. Free from thought control, Holland allowed knowledge and information to flourish, causing a flood of new discoveries, and inventions that have shaped our modern society.

Information Creates Knowledge, Censorship Prevents Knowledge----In Holland where information is available, and drugs legal, drug use has gone down by native dutch adults and children. In America where ignorance is encouraged, and fear of police common, more and more kids are getting high.....I wonder if there is a correlation with increased information and knowledge about drugs, and a decreased usage of drugs??????????????????

The Internet is like Holland, it is the seat of our current enlightenment and dispersement of new knowledge. Allowing overprotectionist policies regarding children, and allowing ignorance about drugs, is the WRONG THING TO DO

Think Harm-Reduction instead of Censorship

The real question is : WHOIS for Freedom

Spark www.medicalmarijuanamuseum.org

medical marijuana for children?

In states where medical marijuana is legal, is it also legal for children? TedErnst

Ted,

Please note: Spark's above comment to Kristina was duplicated here to Ted exactly, and removed by Nathan

Medical Marijuana

Although I am a new user toAboutUs.Org I understand there need to protect there underage community from finding Adult Content Websites. Although there is a major difference between Pornography and Marijuana this type of content does not need to be served to tbose who are under the age of 18. I further believe that sites such as Gambling should aslo be flagged. I do think, although i hold no official capacity or authority, that there should be a clarification on these different types of sites. Either way, even if Potsnob.com is flagged, members over 18 are able to still discover your site. User:SparkI understand your passion to have less censorship in the world, however, this should not come at the expense of exposing those underage to material such as yours. I commend you on your struggle to provide accurate information regarding marijuana. I hope that you do not consider AboutUs.org as Censor's but rather individuals who aim at providing safe web browisng for there younger community members. Thanks for allowing me to voice my opinion as well as yours. Bryan Stackzilla.com

SPARKS RESPONSE TO CONTINUED PURITANISM:

I am glad to speak my mind, it is no problem. By censoring information about drugs from younger viewers you are encouraging children to become ignorant and misuse drugs. Drug use by children and teenagers is a fact of life in every culture on the planet. Suppressing information on the safe use of drugs, and not allowing younger viewer to access information on mind altering substances, reemphasizes this perpetual belief in American Society that drug use is somehow immoral or inappropriate for younger viewers. In many native American cultures, and in Europe with alcohol, exposing the youth to the dangers of drugs early leads to less problems as adults and responsible use of drugs. Shouldn't we allow all sides of the issue to be viewed, whether it is one extreme and the other extreme-All should be free and available for younger viewers to view and learn, and make a educated, informed decisions.

The puritanical belief that drugs are for adults only is RIDICULOUS AND STUPID as is shown by the STATISTICS of UNDERAGE USE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL! Stop trying to perpetuate this ignorance, look past the surface and see the TRUTH!

PEOPLE OF ALL AGES USE MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES AND LIKE IT!

INFORMED DECISIONS ARE CORRECT DECISIONS-CENSORSHIP IS MIND CONTROL--

--LETS BAN DANCING NEXT!---Burn WITCHES!---MAKE ALL HOMOSEXUAL INFORMATIONAL SITES INTO ADULT SITES ALSO! LETS MAKE SURE OUR KIDS DONT TURN GAY!

DONT OVERDOSE ON YOUR OWN IGNORANCE!

WHOIS for Freedom Anymore??????

Herb

Hey Spark,

I'm sorry that your initial experience with AboutUs has been so negative. I assure you that marijuana is not, and will not be part of our adult content policy. In fact, I think the AboutUs wiki is the perfect place for this kind of information to reside. KristinaWeis, tagged the page, but put an edit summery in stating she wasn't sure it was the correct thing to do and would like to talk about it more. I think you should branch this conversation out of your user page and move it to something like a medical marijuana portal. Stay in touch and take it easy on the staff - Scott Keeler Comment_green.gif

Sorry

Hey Scott and the AboutUS Community,

I am sorry for getting so emotionally charged about this issue, but we must not lose sight of what we have now, and what we have lost in our past. The fact that you have decided not to include marijuana in AdultContent shows that this organization truly has a global reach and dedication to the free pursuit of knowledge. Wiki, Wikipedia, AboutUs, are today our modern day Library of Alexandria. We are beginning to construct a massive infrastructure of knowledge and information that will guarantee our continued survival as a species. The Library of Alexandria did not disgard information not in tune with the political feelings of the time, Just as Wiki, and AboutUs must not let it happen.

We the AboutUs Community are so important to the continued advancement of humanity in so many ways. Knowledge and Information is power. This virtual encyclopedia of modern day, will be so important to our descendents, to get a full grasp of how they came to be the way they are. We only see further then our predecessors because we stand on their shoulders, We build on knowledge they knew. Free Inquiry, skepticism, and questioning authority all require a large database of Information.

We Are All Building the Foundation for Future Advancements!

I will be starting a Medical Marijuana Portal---Thank You all for the Opportunity!

GOOD JOB EVERYONE!

SPARK www.medicalmarijuanamuseum.org

Moved comment

I originally decided to move your comment from DailyFun (which is a page of collection of links not related to Wiki or AboutUs) to the ConcernsPage, but have instead opted to leave it here. Anyone who wants to read it here are free to do so. There's really not much point in duplicating a comment on two pages - there also isn't much point in duplicating the same comment on the same page (so I have removed the other instances of the same comment). If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Nathan (talk) / 21:28, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

AnnualCommunityReview

Hi Will, would like to invite you to participate in some conference calls we are having. I think it would be great if you would like to participate because of your relative newness! :-) Best, MarkDilley

Portal

Hello Spark, I came across your Portal:Stock_Investment and it seems to be focused on one firm RedHotStocks.com. Creating a portal on investments is a great idea and an opportunity to really educate, maybe add some frequently update metrics? Portals, are not for individual companies- this information would go on a firm's wiki page. You can add the work to the RedHotStocks.com wiki page or expand the portal to include other aspects of the industry. If you're interested in the latter, you might want to check out: Portal:LASIK, or the Portal:2008_Presidential_Elections. if you have any questions, just click my name. Kasey 15:20, 22 August 2007 (PDT)


Hey Kasey,

Thanks for that info, I will definitely add more information and lessen the exclusivity of the portal. Same with my credit repair portal. I will also be making a redhotstocks portal and other corporate profiles, thanks so much for the info.

Spark


hotlinking

I HAVE FOUND MY SITE BEING HOT LINKED TO AN ATTORNEYS WEBSITE!.....APPARENTLY SOMEONE HAS ATTEMPTED TO GET ME SUED. I FOUND IT WITHIN 5 SECONDS OF IT HAPPENING BECAUSE I AM NOT TOO STONED TO CHECK MY KEYWORD ANALYSIS. NICE TRY, BUT NO BONE, ALREADY HANDLED THE ISSUE BEFORE IT COULD BLOW UP.

FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL!

Friday Talk

I posted some of my comments afterwards AnnualCommunityReview2007FridayNotes, feel free to post any of your own thoughts, something else you wanted to say. I'll be editing more later. --Simon | talk 10:58, 24 August 2007 (PDT)

NewSkin Beta Preview

Hello Mark!

We've noticed your contributions and are glad to be on the AboutUs team with you! As an ActiveMember your energy and ideas determine our future direction. One way that ActiveMembers stay "in the loop" is to participate in the beta previews of large new changes to the site before they are generally released.

Today we're starting a limited beta preview of an earthy NewSkin intended to reflect the alive and growing AboutUs community. The NewSkin is designed to feel wholesome and connected with the real world. This choice was made to reassure the many folks who feel that the internet is a "scary place" where mean people hide behind fake identities and shout insults at each other. We hope that the NewSkin evokes our values in a way that helps visitors and members alike feel grounded in true community.

We'd love your help putting the NewSkin through its paces! To give it a whirl you'll need to be logged in. Once you are logged in, go to "my preferences" | "skin" and select "design". Don't forget to then click the "save" button! You can always go back to the current skin by selecting "aboutus" via the same steps.

Your feedback on the new look for aboutus will help ensure that it has a maximally positive impact when we roll it out. Thanks for being a valuable member of the community, we look forward to your feedback on the NewSkin page!

Warm Regards,
the DevelopmentTeam

move to domain page

Hey Mark, so much of the content on your PersonalPage seems to fit on the domain page MedicalMarijuanaMuseum.org. Best, MarkDilley


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